RE: Do atheists need some faith?
July 20, 2012 at 1:24 am
(This post was last modified: July 20, 2012 at 1:25 am by Whateverist.)
(July 19, 2012 at 8:54 pm)Felasco Wrote: THEISM: People who know they have beliefs.
ATHEISM: People who don't know they have beliefs.
That can't be right. I know I have beliefs and I am without theism. I act routinely with faith in a number of beliefs for which I have no proof. I don't know for certain that other people have minds and subjective experience like my own but I carry on as though and, in fact, truly believe that they do. I suppose that is a kind of faith and one I am happy to own.
I have plenty of beliefs about gods too.
I can't make sense of a class of objects which are by their very nature 'supernatural'. To my way of thinking, everything that exists is and must be natural. Our inability to detect it doesn't guarantee that it doesn't exist, but if it does exist it is natural. So one belief I have about gods is that if they exist, they are part of the universe - not the known universe obviously, but definitely part of the natural order.
I also cannot make sense of the idea of a god as being that which which came before everything else. That is, if an accounting of the beginnings of the universe is required, then so too must the origins of a creator being be accounted for. Otherwise, attributing creation to a creator is no explanation at all.
It has been suggested that atheists are excessively sure of themselves and lack humility. I'd say that is an extremely common condition to humans of every stripe, theists and atheists alike. Who is to say how much importance should be given to the question of the existence of gods?
When I say I am an atheist, what I mean is that it doesn't appear that I ever act in such a way as to take into account the wishes or demands of any gods. In other words, it isn't just a matter of how I think I should act in regard to gods. Apart from my thoughts and opinions there are the beliefs inherent in what I actually do. In my case, I find nothing of the kind regarding gods. If the atheism descriptor fits, why not own it?