RE: The Stage is Yours.
July 30, 2012 at 9:37 am
(This post was last modified: July 30, 2012 at 9:39 am by Reforged.)
(July 30, 2012 at 8:07 am)fr0d0 Wrote: No shit indeed Rhythm. Given God, reasoning back to God follows. Same with given Not God.Yeah, obvious glitch here.
No I don't mean to say that I think about God when I come across something positive. I already attribute creation of the world as a positive that came from God. Everything fits this model, where I don't see that it fits any other model.
If an atheist position was to similarly assume a positive cause, then it would be the same. Personallly the positive cause argument is the only one that computes for me. Other arguments: no cause, constant existance, do not.
This is my understanding of God, and it is pretty thoroughly defined in the Summa Theologica by Thomas Aquinas. So for you to refer to the point as an empty plattitude would be incorrect. It's actually based upon specific reasoning.
"I already attribute creation of the world as a positive that came from God. Everything fits this model, where I don't see that it fits any other model. "
This view is based on an argument for the metaphysical, faith and the Bible.
Keeping in mind the metaphysical is firmly in the realm of theory, faith is basically believing strongly without evidence and the Bible has as much backing as any childs storybook.
It shocks me you would admit that your entire world view hinges on "the only one that computes for me".
Its practically a confession that you just can't picture any other way. This could be for many reasons; you were raised into your religion and it is a constant in your life, it is the only way you have given any serious thought to, comfort, you don't want to consider other possibilities believing yours to be the one thats best for you, it gives you comfort to think you will see lost loved ones, it frightens you that if you rejected it and its true you would burn in hell, most of your friends and family will likely be of a similar belief, its nice to feel certainty, its easier for you to just accept it, etc etc.
My guess is its down to one or more of these reasons. The fact you're even aware that it is "the only one that computes for me" suggests its self-imposed. That you can't imagine any other possible way because you won't allow yourself to.
Thats my theory anyway.
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die."
- Abdul Alhazred.
- Abdul Alhazred.
