RE: Atheism is the punk rock of religion
July 30, 2012 at 9:59 am
(This post was last modified: July 30, 2012 at 10:13 am by Reforged.)
(July 30, 2012 at 1:31 am)fr0d0 Wrote:(July 29, 2012 at 7:19 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: No you didn't, you quoted various posts and said they contradicted with no elaboration as to why they do.
Seriously, what do you think you are gaining from stalling exactly? Because its not credibility.
I precisely laid out my reasoning and you haven't addressed it at all. You quote two comparable statements as evidence of two contradictory statements. Your position is clear as I've demonstrated. The ball is in your court to either retract or deny. You seem to be unable to understand. You have my sympathies.
Sympathies? They're not exactly required. You just claimed you laid out your reasoning after each quote. Well anyone who reads back can see you didn't, you didn't even make the attempt. You've just lied to me and every single reader here.
On the contrary fr0d0, you have my sympathies. Not only can you not list any contradictions but now you've made an entirely and demonstrably false claim.
Whoops? :-)
Oh and there seemed to be some confusion as to why these statements contradict:
(July 28, 2012 at 4:54 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Atheism is a position on God [deity].This claims Atheism is a position on God and as a result implies that it is more than a simple lack of belief.
(July 28, 2012 at 4:54 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Get with the plan Raphael. Atheism = lack of belief in God. That's it. It's not confusing.A lack of belief in God, in that there is no belief he exists. This, as you so adequately put, is all Atheism is.
A position on God must assume God exists to be made. If you lay out a moral code you believe to be consistent with the Bible which you believe to be inspired by God then it is a position on morality, on religion and on God. The same cannot be said for a simple lack of belief in him, it denies the very thing you would attempt to make a position on. I don't hold any belief in the easter bunny, thats not an easter bunny position. I'm fairly certain the cat in the hat is also not real. These constitute positions on what is real and what is fiction.
Before you answer any of these I insist you clearly list all the contradictions of the posts you quoted as I have requested repeatedly while giving my patient answers.
It is a simple task that should already have been done and this debate will not continue until it is.
Your choice.
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die."
- Abdul Alhazred.
- Abdul Alhazred.