RE: Better reasons to quit Christianity
August 20, 2012 at 4:01 am
(This post was last modified: August 20, 2012 at 4:12 am by Undeceived.)
(August 19, 2012 at 3:17 pm)Rhythm Wrote: No, not if you invoke precongnition. Precognitions describes a state from the observers end, it's mirror image is predestination from the observed's end. It doesn't even matter if the precognitive observer chose the initial states, or any of the given outcomes. A precognitive human being with no other abilities whatsoever would completely erode the notion of free will, let alone a precognitive god with a whole host of other abilities and stated plans.There's an unstated step in the logic here.
1. God has precognition (Premise)
2. God will always act on his precognition to achieve what he knows is most healthy* for his creation.
3. Therefore God predestines all.
The question is, is #2 true?
*healthy here is a physical and moral perfection. Emotions, reason and rationality do not exist.
(August 20, 2012 at 12:48 am)Skepsis Wrote: You can choose, sure, but your choice was already known and ingrained into you before you chose it.It's remains your choice. That's free will in life. Unless you're arguing we lack free will outside of life. Then go ahead--use your created mind to recreate yourself with different thoughts and ideas... which do not exist in your brain. You want to create and be created. You wish to have the cake and eat it. Well done, you're in a philosophical paradox.