RE: Where did the Jesus myth come from?
September 3, 2012 at 11:13 pm
(This post was last modified: September 3, 2012 at 11:20 pm by Tea Earl Grey Hot.)
(September 3, 2012 at 10:48 pm)Lion IRC Wrote:(September 3, 2012 at 10:40 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: Wait, why are talking about Paul? Peter had the vision. And he was supposedly a disciple of Jesus if I remember correctly.
I really doubt Jesus' Great Commission given in his resurrection body just before he floated up into the sky would have been a serious point of controversy!
teaearlgreyhot,
Jesus during His actual ministry did stuff which pious Jews found controversial. Peter and Paul both understood that Jesus was talking to EVERYONE.
Peter didnt need a vision about kosher and non-kosher to understand that the Gospel message was about love of neighbors - even if they werent Jewish. He already knew who Jesus meant by ''neighbor''. (See the Samaritan parable)
Supposing Jesus did in fact do and say those controversial things, it would not have been controversial for very long among his followers. Those that found it too controversial would have just left following Jesus. What would have been left would be those who got use to Jesus' teachings. Supposing that Jesus really did do controversial things like maybe healing a gentile, or getting involved with Samaritans, we wouldn't expect it to be controversial among his followers many years later after his death.
The fact that it was controversial among Christians long after Jesus died, implies that Jesus never said or did those things you mentioned. Peter, who supposedly knew Jesus, needed a vision to know those things we're ok for Christ's sake! (pun not intended)
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"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).
"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).