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Democratic Party drops "God" in its platform
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RE: Democratic Party drops "God" in its platform
(September 6, 2012 at 3:32 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Yeah, you know, I've gotta say, "giving them Germany" probably would have been a little sturdier.

Not possible. Besides reinvogorating the antisemitism such an act would cause in all the rest of Europe, it also contradicts the then current world attitude and develpments:

1. Israel's first great power patron was the Soviet Union, not the United States. When Israel declared its independence the United States hastened to give it recognition but nothing else. The KGB hastened to ship it arms through their puppets in the Czechoslovakia.

2. Until 1956, It was not all together clear that Israel would reliably lean towards the west rather than the Soviet Union. Soviet Union certainly thought Israel had real potential as an ally and a pawn in Soviet efforts to establish a presence in the Mediterranean. The Soviets certainly thought most Jews in the world who are poor and oppressed, as oppose to a few Jews who are rich, ought to naturally lean towards the Soviet Union and away from the west.

3. Prior to formation of Isreal the Soviets actually proposed carving a region of Siberian out to form a semi-autonomous Jewish Republic under the Soviet Union to encourage the Jews of the world to side with Soviet Union rather than the western democracies.

4. The Soviet view of Jewish affinity towards the Soviets is by no means not shared in the west. State Department, even prior to McCarthy, was certainly in agreement.

It was only with rise of the Nazzerite Arab nationalism, with its powerful secular socialist and anti-western learning that Soviet Union shifted its favor from the Israelis to the Arabs.

In some ways, the formation of Israel was seen by the west as a gambit to trump the Soviet effort to coopt the world jewery. It seems at least questionable whether formation of Israel would have occurred were it not for the incipient struggle between the west and USSR.
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RE: Democratic Party drops "God" in its platform - by A Theist - September 6, 2012 at 10:31 am
RE: Democratic Party drops "God" in its platform - by Phish - September 6, 2012 at 2:26 pm
RE: Democratic Party drops "God" in its platform - by Cato - September 6, 2012 at 9:30 am
RE: Democratic Party drops "God" in its platform - by Darth - September 6, 2012 at 10:06 am
RE: Democratic Party drops "God" in its platform - by Phish - September 6, 2012 at 2:03 pm
RE: Democratic Party drops "God" in its platform - by Anomalocaris - September 6, 2012 at 5:20 pm
RE: Democratic Party drops "God" in its platform - by Phish - September 7, 2012 at 11:37 am

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