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Suffering
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RE: Suffering
(September 19, 2012 at 11:23 pm)Godschild Wrote: @ Stimbo, I was not addressing the NTDs, I was addressing the way God could use bad things to teach people to behave themselves, you wanted me to address how God could use sin to teach lessons. I have given you the answer, you're to self absorbed to see what I had expressed.

I'm not at all self-absorbed, just very, very confused as to why you were banging on about STDs which I had not mentioned and ignored NTDs, which I did. I thought it might be a matter of courtesy to address even obliquely the points I raised in a post to which you were replying and which you quoted in your own. To put it bluntly, you quoted my words then completely disregarded them and went off on your own tangent, answering questions I had not asked.

I didn't say anything about sin; the theme was "suffering", which Neural Tube Defects cause in abundance (I was going to say "with bells on", but I didn't want to confuse you). As far as I'm concerned, there is no such thing as "sin". Sin to me is essentially human nature criminalised. It is as much a part of your religion as crucifixes, candles and cassocks, and I am not a subscriber.

(September 19, 2012 at 11:23 pm)Godschild Wrote: I know nothing of NTDs and how God could use that to teach man, what I did explain to you is how God will take care of these children.

I gathered you might not have heard of them, that's why I suggested you Google them. I think it's a bit rich to say that 'God' will take care of such children instead of, oh I don't know, not making them be born that way. Would that work, do you think?

(September 19, 2012 at 11:23 pm)Godschild Wrote: As far as making statements about what you can do, well it's like this, you complain about God, which you do not believe in, yet you never say anything about the nonbelievers who cause problems for others such as the unborn children I mentioned in my reply.

I have never complained about 'God' since, as you almost correctly pointed out, I have no belief in the creature. I may occasionally talk about the atrocities of the creature, or the ridiculousness of it, but to spin that into my hypocritically complaining about an entity that I hold to be non-existent is ludicrously dishonest. For future reference, all such musings about this fictional 'God' and what it 'does' come with the unwritten caveat "if it were to exist". Just mentally add that to my words and everything ought to become clear.

(September 19, 2012 at 11:23 pm)Godschild Wrote: So it seems to me you do not care what others do to their fellow man, just remember these women who do these things to their unborn children are at fault, not God.

Now I know for a fact that you didn't Google NTDs. They are not caused by "these women" or any human at all. They are naturally-occurring disorders, in other words "God's Will". Before the discovery that Folic Acid can reduce the risk or even prevent them full stop, such children would - and still do, 300,0000 per year - have died unimaginable deaths and their families left devastated. Some care your god ("if it were to exist") is giving them, eh?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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Suffering - by Reasonable_Jeff - September 16, 2012 at 7:30 pm
RE: Suffering - by Erinome - September 16, 2012 at 7:44 pm
RE: Suffering - by Reasonable_Jeff - September 16, 2012 at 7:53 pm
RE: Suffering - by frankiej - September 16, 2012 at 7:47 pm
RE: Suffering - by Polaris - September 16, 2012 at 8:10 pm
RE: Suffering - by Ben Davis - September 16, 2012 at 8:12 pm
RE: Suffering - by MysticKnight - September 16, 2012 at 8:21 pm
RE: Suffering - by Waratah - September 17, 2012 at 12:06 am
RE: Suffering - by Reasonable_Jeff - September 17, 2012 at 6:30 am
RE: Suffering - by Ben Davis - September 17, 2012 at 7:20 am
RE: Suffering - by Waratah - September 17, 2012 at 7:34 am
RE: Suffering - by genkaus - September 17, 2012 at 7:56 am
RE: Suffering - by Napoléon - September 17, 2012 at 8:06 am
RE: Suffering - by Lion IRC - September 17, 2012 at 1:57 am
RE: Suffering - by Nine - September 17, 2012 at 2:31 am
RE: Suffering - by Whateverist - September 17, 2012 at 9:28 am
RE: Suffering - by Angrboda - September 17, 2012 at 2:50 am
RE: Suffering - by Faith No More - September 17, 2012 at 8:30 am
RE: Suffering - by The Grand Nudger - September 17, 2012 at 8:36 am
RE: Suffering - by Polaris - September 18, 2012 at 12:33 am
RE: Suffering - by LastPoet - September 17, 2012 at 9:19 am
RE: Suffering - by MysticKnight - September 17, 2012 at 2:47 pm
RE: Suffering - by FallentoReason - September 18, 2012 at 1:00 pm
RE: Suffering - by MysticKnight - September 18, 2012 at 1:46 pm
RE: Suffering - by genkaus - September 18, 2012 at 2:08 pm
RE: Suffering - by Tobie - September 18, 2012 at 1:59 pm
RE: Suffering - by MysticKnight - September 18, 2012 at 2:17 pm
RE: Suffering - by Godschild - September 18, 2012 at 12:18 am
RE: Suffering - by MysticKnight - September 18, 2012 at 12:21 am
RE: Suffering - by Waratah - September 18, 2012 at 1:43 am
RE: Suffering - by FallentoReason - September 18, 2012 at 2:37 am
RE: Suffering - by Godschild - September 19, 2012 at 12:29 am
RE: Suffering - by FallentoReason - September 19, 2012 at 12:35 am
RE: Suffering - by Cyberman - September 18, 2012 at 7:35 am
RE: Suffering - by Godschild - September 19, 2012 at 12:51 am
RE: Suffering - by Cato - September 19, 2012 at 4:04 am
RE: Suffering - by genkaus - September 19, 2012 at 4:55 am
RE: Suffering - by Cyberman - September 19, 2012 at 10:58 am
RE: Suffering - by Minimalist - September 18, 2012 at 1:04 am
RE: Suffering - by Kayenneh - September 18, 2012 at 5:54 am
RE: Suffering - by The Grand Nudger - September 18, 2012 at 8:43 am
RE: Suffering - by pocaracas - September 18, 2012 at 9:05 am
RE: Suffering - by FallentoReason - September 18, 2012 at 1:51 pm
RE: Suffering - by MysticKnight - September 18, 2012 at 1:55 pm
RE: Suffering - by FallentoReason - September 18, 2012 at 2:11 pm
RE: Suffering - by MysticKnight - September 18, 2012 at 2:13 pm
RE: Suffering - by FallentoReason - September 18, 2012 at 2:17 pm
RE: Suffering - by Phish - September 18, 2012 at 2:02 pm
RE: Suffering - by Mister Agenda - September 18, 2012 at 2:26 pm
RE: Suffering - by MysticKnight - September 18, 2012 at 2:35 pm
RE: Suffering - by Mister Agenda - September 19, 2012 at 2:33 pm
RE: Suffering - by MysticKnight - September 19, 2012 at 12:54 am
RE: Suffering - by Kayenneh - September 19, 2012 at 3:49 am
RE: Suffering - by FallentoReason - September 19, 2012 at 3:53 am
RE: Suffering - by downbeatplumb - September 19, 2012 at 6:54 am
RE: Suffering - by The Grand Nudger - September 19, 2012 at 1:08 pm
RE: Suffering - by Reforged - September 19, 2012 at 2:52 pm
RE: Suffering - by Godschild - September 19, 2012 at 11:23 pm
RE: Suffering - by Cyberman - September 20, 2012 at 12:03 am
RE: Suffering - by jonb - September 20, 2012 at 12:10 am
RE: Suffering - by Cyberman - September 20, 2012 at 12:17 am
RE: Suffering - by Kayenneh - September 20, 2012 at 3:21 am

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