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Why does God exist?
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RE: Why does God exist?
(September 21, 2012 at 2:31 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: The "why" in my OP is not a cause question. I asked why does God exist as opposed to nothing. I did not ask "what caused God to exist."

The idea that God is just a "brute fact" or "must have existed" I find intolerably strange. You're saying that it makes more sense for an incredibly complex, infinitely intelligent, and all powerful conscious personality to have existed first rather than just the universe by itself? The latter seems like a much more simpler answer.

Will the universe is composed of very small parts. I don't think small parts can exist by themselves without something continuously causing them to exist.

To me whatever exists by itself is such that it must be rich in existence. But if it's rich in existence, why would there be a limit? There is no reason for there to be a limit in it's existence, rather it seems whatever it is, and whatever it must be to exist on it's own, would be unbounded/unlimited.

When I see quarks, I see a limit, something setting the existence to a limit.

When I see limits, I see a limiter. But the limiter must have no limit (be ultimate) because nothing was limiting it.
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Why does God exist? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - June 21, 2012 at 12:22 am
RE: Why does God exist? - by Cato - June 21, 2012 at 12:30 am
RE: Why does God exist? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - June 21, 2012 at 12:38 am
RE: Why does God exist? - by Cato - June 21, 2012 at 2:09 am
RE: Why does God exist? - by Minimalist - June 21, 2012 at 6:00 pm
RE: Why does God exist? - by znk666 - June 21, 2012 at 1:36 am
RE: Why does God exist? - by Ace Otana - June 21, 2012 at 1:59 am
RE: Why does God exist? - by JohnDG - June 21, 2012 at 5:17 pm
RE: Why does God exist? - by zebo-the-fat - June 21, 2012 at 5:21 pm
RE: Why does God exist? - by Anomalocaris - June 21, 2012 at 5:31 pm
RE: Why does God exist? - by Faith No More - June 21, 2012 at 6:58 pm
RE: Why does God exist? - by Godschild - June 22, 2012 at 12:21 am
RE: Why does God exist? - by Anomalocaris - June 22, 2012 at 1:26 am
RE: Why does God exist? - by Reforged - September 22, 2012 at 8:14 am
RE: Why does God exist? - by CapnAwesome - September 22, 2012 at 1:18 pm
RE: Why does God exist? - by Minimalist - June 22, 2012 at 1:00 am
RE: Why does God exist? - by serious987 - September 21, 2012 at 3:17 am
RE: Why does God exist? - by Undeceived - September 21, 2012 at 12:33 pm
RE: Why does God exist? - by Undeceived - September 22, 2012 at 2:56 pm
RE: Why does God exist? - by zebo-the-fat - September 22, 2012 at 3:06 pm
RE: Why does God exist? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - September 22, 2012 at 3:13 pm
RE: Why does God exist? - by Undeceived - September 23, 2012 at 3:03 am
RE: Why does God exist? - by Darkstar - September 23, 2012 at 2:34 pm
RE: Why does God exist? - by genkaus - September 21, 2012 at 3:14 pm
RE: Why does God exist? - by Tino - September 21, 2012 at 11:13 am
RE: Why does God exist? - by MysticKnight - September 21, 2012 at 1:32 pm
RE: Why does God exist? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - September 21, 2012 at 2:31 pm
RE: Why does God exist? - by MysticKnight - September 21, 2012 at 3:08 pm
RE: Why does God exist? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - September 21, 2012 at 3:20 pm
RE: Why does God exist? - by genkaus - September 21, 2012 at 3:21 pm
RE: Why does God exist? - by Drich - September 21, 2012 at 2:51 pm
RE: Why does God exist? - by Killman - September 22, 2012 at 4:02 am
RE: Why does God exist? - by Drich - September 22, 2012 at 11:54 am
RE: Why does God exist? - by pocaracas - September 22, 2012 at 12:16 pm
RE: Why does God exist? - by MysticKnight - September 21, 2012 at 3:25 pm
RE: Why does God exist? - by genkaus - September 21, 2012 at 3:54 pm
RE: Why does God exist? - by Darkstar - September 21, 2012 at 10:30 pm
RE: Why does God exist? - by The Grand Nudger - September 22, 2012 at 8:02 am
RE: Why does God exist? - by The Grand Nudger - September 22, 2012 at 12:05 pm
RE: Why does God exist? - by The Grand Nudger - September 22, 2012 at 12:18 pm
RE: Why does God exist? - by MysticKnight - September 22, 2012 at 1:27 pm
RE: Why does God exist? - by CapnAwesome - September 22, 2012 at 1:35 pm
RE: Why does God exist? - by The Grand Nudger - September 23, 2012 at 10:18 am

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