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Permanent omnipotence?
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RE: Permanent omnipotence?
(November 12, 2012 at 4:25 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(November 12, 2012 at 4:01 pm)Darkstar Wrote: So...walking on water, multiplying bread and fishes, ressurecting the dead, ressurecting himself...yeah he sure was powerless. Maybe he just chose not to exert his power all of the time as the son. Jesus's personality is so different from Yahweh's...how again are they both the same being?

You're not very well versed in scripture are you, if you were you would know how Jesus preformed those miracles. Hint it is because they are the same Jesus was able to do those miracles.
I asked how they could be the same being when they had seemingly different personalities and seperate knowledge from each other.

Godschild Wrote:
(November 12, 2012 at 4:08 pm)Darkstar Wrote: Which includes pure evil? Then that would make god morally neutral; infinite everything would lead to a lot of traits cancelling each other out, unless we mean only positive things (read: heat, not cold because cold is only the lack of heat). But even then, infinite malice vs. infinite altruism? Neither is simply the lack of the other so...

You're so intent on making God evil please prove it, since there is no other place to find out about God you will need to go to scripture and within them you will have to show where it says God is evil. If you can not do so then speculation is all you have, coming from you speculation means no more than .... well useless.

Do you mean that the bible has to explicitly say "god is evil" word for word, or can we draw the conclusion that he is a fearmongering tyrant from passages like these:

and others.
Oh, and basically the whole book of Job.
John Adams Wrote:The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
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Permanent omnipotence? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 12:37 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by SpecUVdust - November 11, 2012 at 1:04 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 1:11 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Jackalope - November 11, 2012 at 4:04 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by SpecUVdust - November 11, 2012 at 1:13 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 1:16 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by SpecUVdust - November 11, 2012 at 1:21 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Silas Stingy - November 11, 2012 at 1:45 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 3:11 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2012 at 3:09 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2012 at 3:13 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 3:13 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2012 at 3:15 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 3:16 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Minimalist - November 11, 2012 at 3:19 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2012 at 3:20 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 4:08 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Godschild - November 12, 2012 at 4:07 am
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Edwardo Piet - November 12, 2012 at 3:39 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Darkstar - November 12, 2012 at 4:01 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Godschild - November 12, 2012 at 4:25 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Kousbroek - November 12, 2012 at 4:42 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Darkstar - November 12, 2012 at 4:59 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Godschild - November 12, 2012 at 7:54 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Darkstar - November 13, 2012 at 1:28 am
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Cato - November 13, 2012 at 1:50 am
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Angrboda - November 12, 2012 at 5:18 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2012 at 4:08 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 4:10 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2012 at 4:11 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 4:13 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2012 at 4:14 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 4:15 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Angrboda - November 11, 2012 at 4:16 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2012 at 4:18 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by TaraJo - November 11, 2012 at 4:19 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 4:20 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2012 at 4:21 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 4:21 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2012 at 4:24 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 4:26 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2012 at 4:27 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Angrboda - November 11, 2012 at 4:36 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 4:29 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2012 at 4:30 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 4:33 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 4:37 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2012 at 4:37 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 4:38 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2012 at 4:40 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 4:45 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2012 at 4:46 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 4:51 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2012 at 4:53 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 5:00 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2012 at 5:01 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 5:11 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2012 at 5:16 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 5:19 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2012 at 5:23 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 5:24 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by SpecUVdust - November 11, 2012 at 6:24 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by LastPoet - November 11, 2012 at 5:27 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2012 at 5:27 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 5:33 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2012 at 5:42 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Jackalope - November 11, 2012 at 6:00 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 5:52 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2012 at 6:17 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 6:20 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2012 at 6:23 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 6:26 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2012 at 6:27 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 6:30 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2012 at 6:37 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 6:41 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2012 at 6:53 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 6:57 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2012 at 7:00 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Cinjin - November 11, 2012 at 7:06 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2012 at 7:10 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Angrboda - November 11, 2012 at 11:57 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by The Grand Nudger - November 12, 2012 at 12:51 am
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by The Grand Nudger - November 12, 2012 at 9:58 am
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Angrboda - November 12, 2012 at 2:43 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Edwardo Piet - November 12, 2012 at 4:03 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Darkstar - November 12, 2012 at 4:08 pm
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Darkstar - November 13, 2012 at 2:36 am
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Adjusted Sanity - November 13, 2012 at 2:45 am
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by Minimalist - November 13, 2012 at 2:50 am
RE: Permanent omnipotence? - by KichigaiNeko - November 13, 2012 at 2:56 am

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