RE: Christians celebrate rape, torture, slavery and genocide.
November 13, 2012 at 12:28 pm
(This post was last modified: November 13, 2012 at 12:35 pm by John V.)
It's interesting that you're basically arguing that your opinion is correct and anyone who disagrees with you is wrong. Yet, you criticize God for doing the same.
(November 13, 2012 at 12:26 pm)Darkstar Wrote: Morality is subjective, but how subjective is it? Is even the golden rule completely null and void? I don't think so. The golden rule has a rational basis (with the exception of masochists) in that it is beneficial for both parties.You're arguing utilitarianism, which can to some extent be objective. However, it is completely subjective to declare utilitarianism to be superior to any other method.
Quote:Of course, even this is not 100% objective, but it is a very good rule of thumb. If one cannot even understand the merits of the golden rule, then that person may as well be amoral. Is murdering someone's family, kidnapping them, and putting them in a situation in which they must submit to their captor "in everything" (including sex) perfectly okay because morality is subjective?No. Neither does your calling it rape make it so.
Quote:Perhaps by their flawed understanding. Now, just because morality is subjective does not mean that we cannot ever claim to have superior/better developed morals to a certain culture.Well, yes, that's what it means.
Quote:Yes, there are many instances in which we cannot, but there are a few cases. If we are seeking to cause the least amount of harm, and cause harm to the least number of people, then this is not the way to go.See above on utilitarianism.
Quote:If we are not, then what are morals for?They're frequently for the strengthening of a particular society, with no or little regard for the welfare of outsiders.