Athiesm is a Faith?

[Aractus]

Dear oh dear, you can't even present coherent arguments ...

To answer a few people above who ask about the debate about words let me quote wiki "Depending on the religion, faith is belief in a god or gods or in the doctrines or teachings of the religion. Informal usage of faith can be quite broad, including trust or belief without proof,[1] and "faith" is often used as a substitute for "hope", "trust" or "belief"." I am using the later " belief without proof " for Faith and would contend that both Athiests and Theists if they are honest with themselves will accept that when pushed back to the metaphorical which came first the egg or the chicken will accept that we have no proof beyond the reality we can experience.

Which came first - chicken or egg. Being that you a. believe in chicken, b. believe in egg, it makes no difference to your belief whether the chicken or the egg was "first". We don't really understand how evolution works well enough to appreciate how different forms of reproduction "get started", they just "do" - or rather we can simply observe that it happens.

We both have to accept a contradiction to logic, that being either something always existed or was created from nothing (and i mean nothing as in no fields no energy, real nothing)

That's fine to SAY "real nothing", but can you find it? No you can't, because nothingness doesn't exist, and many scientists believe that it can't exist. Thus your definition in attempting to restrict science is futile: if nothingness can't exist, then you can't start from nothing, can you?

Likewise thinking some athiests (in my opinion) would contend that the Cosmos does not need a creator to exist which again is a statement that can never be proved as each time we push back creation we find a new mystery that needs explaining but they have faith that science will finally push back the boundary to a final answer.

The universe is the way it is. There's no "pushing back" to anything. Just because you can't count the exact number of fundamental particles, doesn't mean you can't understand how the universe behaves. And it doesn't take faith, it takes science.

And while we're at it what are these "mysteries" you're rattling on about anyway??

Other athiest would argue like Einstein in a non personal God alien to the general monotheist God again with no undisputable proof.

Einstein rejected the possibility of any god, including a "non-personal god".

Try and do better next time. Also, do you realize you're on an atheist forum? Stop consistently misspelling atheist!!