(January 7, 2013 at 9:12 pm)Cinjin Wrote:well to be honest some of what you described could actually be true and the debate we are having is really is it a self initiating self generating program or is there a programmer. Except the programme is not creating 2D mass less worlds with 2D avaters in simulated 3d but rather a 3D physical world in 4d simulation. I havent been keeping fully upto date with science but each time the break down the the building blocks of matter you seem to get more empty space so at the smallest building blocks is there actually any volume and if there is no volume is there any matter there ?, so in that sense we are all built from nothing. I have mentioned it before but there is the holographic theory of the universe(January 7, 2013 at 9:03 pm)Mark 13:13 Wrote: i will stick to something i can't prove but I know to be true " I will not accept that the burden of proof always rests with the person making the claim" i will not ask or give any proof for that lol. I will therefore avoid making claims but rather statements of belief but of course If my opponent believes the issue of burden of proof then in respect for their belief I will feel able to should it suit my purposes to ask them for proof. should they make claims
I'd like to tell you all something that I know to be true:
The movie The Matrix had fictional characters yes, but like Titanic, those fictional characters are based on the reality of the human condition. That's right, we are all currently living in a computer program. There is nothing we can do about it. Our minds our locked into a super sophisticated computer program and I really have no doubt of this. I would now like to shift the burden of proof to whomever reads this sentence. Mark has shown me the light with his special pleading and I WILL NOT be bullied into providing any evidence for such claims. It's only logical.
Now lets just rest and wait for our invitations to the big party in Zion. The prophecies foretold it.
http://www.wired.com/underwire/2012/05/g...an-greene/