(January 9, 2013 at 12:55 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:(January 9, 2013 at 12:26 pm)Mark 13:13 Wrote: I tried to communicate an answer disect it if you want or find that helps you understand what I am saying. If you want me to justify my answer then I cannot as we can't agree even on whats acceptable for proof so why bother.
The only thing I saw you post with regards to this was that you would pray that we would be 'open to persuasion'.
"I by myself have no other method, but of course I can hold within the framework of my own system that I can pray the The Holy Spirit allows them to be open to persuasion"
Is that what you are referring to?
If so, how does that apply to using the 'appropriate tools' in different situations?
Please explain.
The decision to become Atheist or otherwise for the majority of people in my opinion was not based on being straight jacketed in logic and the very fact that atheists can become Theists prove that this logic is the only thing that works idea and i'm talking serious big names. So how much so with people who are less capable of the kind of logical analysis you guys apply. I don't need to show the how just the result to suggest there must be other methods of persuasion.