Burden of Proof

[The Grand Nudger]

I wish people would not keep telling me of the weakness of my position, I'm the only one standing in my position so I should know if its weak or not. From where I stand its perfectly strong and can withstand any assault, just because it breaks all the custom and practice rules does not weaken it.

It hardly needs assualting, you haven't supported it in any way. It's DOA.

I don't excuse the idea for its supposed short coming but I wont accept that because your mindsets can't accept it somehow its weak.

It';s not weak because my mindset won't accept it, but because yours...that does...is incapable of supporting it.

When we discuss God we are dealing with a potentiality outside the cosmos,

Yet another bare assertion. Are you going to offer any support for this position? Of course not, but it hardly matters to me- because you're clearly mistaken. You're here, within the cosmos, imagining god, the god stories exists, here, in the cosmos.

where everything is either infinite or eternal and you are trying to say the laws and rules that function within our finite world, developed by intelligent apes, who have only existed for a blink in the age of the earth let alone the universe. The rules and structures that serve us well start to creak at the edges when we approach even the extremes in what we can try to understand and you never even consider that a different set of rules and approaches are needed beyond.

You're one of those intelligent apes, and that cuts both ways now doesn't it. Did you just tell me how things where beyond the cosmos? How would you know? Do you think that your god story is somehow excused for all the failings of these intelligent apes, with their short time here? I hardly think so. Case in point, your god story seems to emphasize our limitations and history very, very well. Beyond what? Beyond the beyond, in the gaps? This is appealing to ignorance, google it and enrich your understanding.

Scientist hate infinity because all rules go bonkers there so they continue to wait in hope for someone to get them out of the conundrum of the singularity. Still it does make for interesting new theories which can be entertained and discussed if scientists raise them....heres a new one on me..But an Indiana University professor has a new theory, reports New Scientist: We’re inside a black hole that exists in another universe. Specifically, a black hole that rebounded, somewhat like a spring.
http://www.popsci.com/science/article/20...ntist-says

All well and good, is this how you plan to support your position? It won't work.

I feel a little like the guy who leaves platos cave and comes back to find that rather than listen to the guy they have become so identified with world they have been imprisioned in that they find him a nuisance and could even become aggressive towards the one who challenges their reality.

Are you the guy who left? I'll be frank here, anyone who thinks that those who actually -did- dwell in caves answered some question about the fabric of our cosmos better than we can answer it today has no grounds to even imply that he has somehow stumbled upon knowledge or enlightenment. This is a sad joke.