Irreducible Complexity.

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Bozo, you said:
'CR, I'm mixing threads here but I need to ask you something.
You introduced yourself to the forum as a " doubting christian ".
On the " Is faith a cop-out " thread, given 3 choices you picked " God has always existed ".
My question is this, you appear to WANT to believe in " God ", so how are we atheists any help in fulfilling your desire? Are you on the right forum?'

I am here because I have enough doubts that motivate me to check things which supposedly support ID. I am aware that ID supporters are in the minority and I cannot ignore the majority of very intelligent people (many atheists e.g Dawkins) who do not 'see' ID in things like we are discussing in this thread. I think it's important to get 'both sides' views and arguments in order to be sure. I know there is a possibility there is no 'God' and that my reasonings etc are faulty. The folk here have already opened my eyes, as it were to a 'bigger' possibility that there is no God.
Hope that explains why I am here? By the way, happy birthday

Evidence- my brain has nearly short circuited with your revelations of your exact position. I'll try to decipher it when I get a chance.

Adrian, you said:
'I'm trying to come up with an analogy that you can understand, but so far I seem to have failed miserably (my fault entirely).' I think the fault may be with me, in that I don't understand biology stuff that well, and so maybe this post is going to prove too much for me. I may have bitten off more than I can chew so to speak. I see what you are saying: these smaller 'machines' ie the syringe, come together gradually and produce more complex things ie the flagellum? Is that right? I spent a good few hours yesterday reading up on this bloody flagellum, and IC. Actually the flagellum is amazing and would put Mazda to shame. Some of the articles I read were seeming to say that IC does not preclude gradual evolution, but I haven't read enough about this and to be honest i think the main supporters wouldn't agree with this. I'm going to email the man himself, Behe regarding a few points. I've emailed him before and he responded within a few days. I will ask for a reprieve at this point while I recheck some things, see if Behe can get back to me, and hopefully tie this thing up. Hope that is ok.