RE: Islam And Internal Peace
October 23, 2009 at 4:23 pm
(This post was last modified: October 23, 2009 at 4:26 pm by Violet.)
Actually... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution has been proven to be correct 
Evolution is the statement that species change (aka: evolve) over time. It is currently the dominant unifying concept of modern biology
Anyway, onto the more interesting topic. Why would a person argue that they must see something to believe it exists or not? I am not looking outside my house at the moment... but I do not believe that there is a Ferrari parked outside my residence I am open to the possibility of course... but I would certainly not be convinced of it until I either see it, or discover its presence in some other way
All of those listed things (though some, like myself, do not believe that the universe is in any harmony whatsoever) can just as easily be held as evidence of a mortal creator... or several creators... or many creators... or a completely natural existence... or as the work of the Christian God(s?)... or as the work of Islamic God(s?)... or even as the gentle ripple of a Computer Tiger's singing.
Under a completely naturalistic process... all of those things are explained perfectly well... which could be considered as evidence for both intelligent design or naturalistic process. I always found it interesting that 'Wise' is not an attribute usually applied to the Christian God... how interesting that it is a valued concept to Islam
Yes, that is one of the strangest and most absurd things about Christianity. Do you consider Allah to be all-loving or jealous?
Number one is indeed true. Number two is debatable (which we debate often enough, i think). And three is I think probable... although I am interested in hearing how it is interpreted by Wael.
Evolution is the statement that species change (aka: evolve) over time. It is currently the dominant unifying concept of modern biology Anyway, onto the more interesting topic.
Why would a person argue that they must see something to believe it exists or not? I am not looking outside my house at the moment... but I do not believe that there is a Ferrari parked outside my residence I am open to the possibility of course... but I would certainly not be convinced of it until I either see it, or discover its presence in some other way All of those listed things (though some, like myself, do not believe that the universe is in any harmony whatsoever) can just as easily be held as evidence of a mortal creator... or several creators... or many creators... or a completely natural existence... or as the work of the Christian God(s?)... or as the work of Islamic God(s?)... or even as the gentle ripple of a Computer Tiger's singing.
Under a completely naturalistic process... all of those things are explained perfectly well... which could be considered as evidence for both intelligent design or naturalistic process.
I always found it interesting that 'Wise' is not an attribute usually applied to the Christian God... how interesting that it is a valued concept to Islam Yes, that is one of the strangest and most absurd things about Christianity. Do you consider Allah to be all-loving or jealous?
(October 23, 2009 at 4:09 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: 1. I believe there was a creator but I also believe that it cannot be known without faith
2. I should worship because God deserves it
3. Yup. Islam is contradictory
Number one is indeed true. Number two is debatable (which we debate often enough, i think
). And three is I think probable... although I am interested in hearing how it is interpreted by Wael.
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
