(November 12, 2009 at 2:27 pm)rjh4 Wrote:(November 12, 2009 at 1:20 pm)Saerules Wrote:rjh4 Wrote:I am a young earth creationist and think that the fossil record (or at least the bulk of it as I would not rule out some of it being the result of local catastrophic events) is a result of the flood of the BibleThat one
We have enough evidence for evolution to put our evidence for it to the level of something like gravity... you know: FACT. o.o
The fossils are cited because you think they all are the same age. This is ridiculous ^_^ As with evolution and gravity: FACT. o.o
Wiki on flood myth Wrote:The biblical delugeAnd it did not happen. This is a FACT. o.o
[edit]Flood geology
Main article: Flood geology
Proponents of flood geology contend that the biblical deluge, Noah's ark, is to be taken literally in which most observed geological processes, like fossilization and sedimentary strata, are a later result of this event.
While some people hold the belief there was a worldwide flood, flood geology itself has been rejected by mainstream geologists, biologists, and historians, many of whom consider it pseudoscience.[24] Though at one time even prominent workers in biblical archaeology were willing to argue support for flood geology,[25][26] this view is no longer widely held.[27]
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I ask you to cite some specific thing we observe today that you think it contradicts the Bible in some way and this is what you come up with!! Evolution insofar as it means common descent is a conclusion/interpretation that extrapolates from the kind of changes we see today. It is not something we observe today. Has anyone observed a dog change into anything other than a dog? Even when one hits fruitflies with radiation to mutate their DNA, does one get anything other than messed up or dead fruitflies? The fact that this is the kind of thing we observe is more consistent with biblical creation than with common descent.
As for the fossils, yes I do think they (or most of them) are the same age. You say this is ridiculous. Why don't you take me through the process of dating them step by step and we can discuss where I would take issue with the process.
Just saying the flood did not happen doesn't make it so. No matter how many times you say it. Again, if you want to discuss specifics, I am happy to do so but the generalizations are not helpful to either of us. So many of the people here say they are skeptics and freethinkers but never want to question current scientific thought, only Biblical thinking. Interesting.
I thought this kind of thinking went out with the ark....
But seriously it takes some serious self delusion to still believe in young earth creation.
And anyway, to see a process that takes thousands of years to happen TAKES THOUSANDS OF YEARS OF LOOKING.
To demand to see speciation in real time is cheating and you know it.
Major changes within a species have been observed happening, is it really such a stretch to say that over time the ability to mate goes and new species arise.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.