(March 9, 2013 at 11:42 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: I was born in Vienna (Wien). Ich bin ein Wiener. Wiener Blut.
As such I was tought of the 11th of september 1683. Which is the date on which the second siege of Vienna ended. (a fact often ignored by german historians and conservatives) the city of vienna which was no longer capable to save itself was then rescued by the polish King Sobieski who lead an army of several christian nations for it`s liberation.
Vienna was besieged by the then Kaliphat of the Ottoman empire, who if they had won, would have probably expanded a muslim empire far into Europe. The end of the siege also marked the beginning of the end for the last kaliphat. shortly after the siege several european nations declared war against the ottoman empire and they would start losing terretory rapedly up to their final collapse in 1917.
So I have heard it by various people that Bin Laden chose the 11th of September on purpose because the last Kaliphat (one could say) started to end on that day. But most people whom I heard say that are "Eurabian" conspiracy nuts. And dates have more assosiations as one may think. William Walace defeated the English in the battle of Stirling bridge on the 11 September, The Island of Manhatten was found, Hungary opend the iron curtain and many more events.
So do you think or have sources that prove that Bin Laden chose that date on purpose because of that siege?
I don't think bin laden actually chose anything, It's just a feeling i get.
To me the situation seems sort of like if you imagine a big kid in school gets knocked out but doesn't see who does it, then people start saying the little kid did it, he denies it, but then as his friends are crowding around him saying "wow you knocked out the big kid you are tough" he just says oh yeh that was me.
Although I could be wrong because it's just a feeling i get based on the way osama bin laden originally denied doing the attacks, and i do think whoever did it probably was funded or related in some way to osama.
Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.
Impersonation is treason.
