Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: May 26, 2024, 7:50 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Can you ever believe that there is no God
#35
RE: Can you ever believe that there is no God
(April 23, 2013 at 6:40 pm)Dawud Wrote: IThat's why I do t want to argue about Stalin - people are closed I their minds to even the possibility that some crazy B-might start a campaign to eradicate belief in God from a population.


You might have missed this wonderful post (or ignored it most likely) by apophenia on one of your other many threads. Please read it and learn:

apophenia Wrote: Regarding Stalin, and the Communists in general. First, in addition to being a tu quoque argument to excuse religious evils, and not connecting with the behavior of atheists generally, it shows a remarkable ignorance of history. The communists persecuted religion because according to communist philosophy, religion hindered and impeded the development of the ideal communist state, and therefore to engage in religious practice was a crime against the proletariat. Just as in the previous example of atheists reacting to theism, communists were reacting to what they perceived to be a threat to the good of society, namely religion. It was a reaction to what they saw as the harmful effects of religion, though those harmful effects were defined considerably differently than contemporary atheists define them, and than those outside Marxist, socialist politics might have defined them. They weren't promoting atheism for atheism's sake. So your whole point is botched by the particulars. More than that, however, I will agree with you that there are extremes in combating religion which are not justified by the potential fruits; however, I would evaluate the justifiability of a reaction to religion on the merits of the individual case, not based on a stereotyped response that reacting to religion negatively is always wrong, nor that atheism in some sense 'causes' any unjustifiable reactions.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
Reply



Messages In This Thread
Can you ever believe that there is no God - by Dawud - April 23, 2013 at 1:10 pm
RE: Can you ever believe that there is no God - by Joel - April 23, 2013 at 1:12 pm
RE: Can you ever believe that there is no God - by Dawud - April 23, 2013 at 1:16 pm
RE: Can you ever believe that there is no God - by Joel - April 23, 2013 at 1:19 pm
RE: Can you ever believe that there is no God - by Dawud - April 23, 2013 at 6:18 pm
RE: Can you ever believe that there is no God - by Dawud - April 23, 2013 at 6:26 pm
RE: Can you ever believe that there is no God - by Dawud - April 23, 2013 at 6:34 pm
RE: Can you ever believe that there is no God - by Dawud - April 23, 2013 at 6:38 pm
RE: Can you ever believe that there is no God - by Dawud - April 23, 2013 at 6:40 pm
RE: Can you ever believe that there is no God - by Simon Moon - April 23, 2013 at 6:54 pm
RE: Can you ever believe that there is no God - by Dawud - April 23, 2013 at 7:22 pm
RE: Can you ever believe that there is no God - by Dawud - April 23, 2013 at 7:30 pm
RE: Can you ever believe that there is no God - by Dawud - April 23, 2013 at 7:42 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  How many of you atheists believe in the Big Bang Theory? Authari 95 6023 January 8, 2024 at 3:21 pm
Last Post: h4ym4n
  Quick Poll - Do you believe in God? Tiberius 1632 461711 May 13, 2023 at 3:34 pm
Last Post: Anomalocaris
  Standing up to family for what you believe in Tomatoshadow2 30 2494 May 4, 2022 at 9:20 am
Last Post: Mister Agenda
  Why do you not believe in the concept of a God? johndoe122931 110 9138 June 19, 2021 at 12:21 pm
Last Post: Mermaid
  Maybe there's something like a god out there. Ryantology 38 3133 June 5, 2020 at 8:42 am
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
Lightbulb Here is why you should believe in God. R00tKiT 112 14097 April 11, 2020 at 5:03 pm
Last Post: The Valkyrie
  Here’s Why You SHOULDN’T Believe In God BrianSoddingBoru4 46 4418 April 5, 2020 at 8:03 am
Last Post: The Valkyrie
  How can you be sure that God doesn't exist? randomguy123 50 5867 August 14, 2019 at 10:46 pm
Last Post: EgoDeath
  Do you wish there's a god? Catharsis 580 46760 April 10, 2019 at 12:17 pm
Last Post: LadyForCamus
  Poll: 0.0% of Icelanders Under 25 Believe God Created The World blue grey brain 37 6743 January 24, 2019 at 6:30 pm
Last Post: GrandizerII



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)