“Once more, atheism is only about the stance one takes regarding gods. An atheist does not believe in gods. That has nothing to do with how the universe came into being.”
I respect your views about God as you might have come to this view for some reason. My point is not to prove there is God rather to understand if atheism don’t believe that Universe pops out of nothingness and on the other side atheism denies the existence of God then what is the middle path. Alternatively, can I take the fact that atheism is wandering in darkness about origin of Universe?
“The religious harp on about an eternity of torture for people and even think its a good thing, but think a few 'naughty' words are awful. Most of the words are about sex or sexual organs anyway. So unless you find human reproduction inhumane I see no reason to moan about it.”
I am a married man and I love my family and my relation with my wife. I respect my family. As I respect my family, I try not to bring torture to my wife by going with another woman or by using disgraceful language with my loved ones. I try not to hurt someone’s feeling in no way. This is what religion is all about. I do agree that religion is misused brutally in the history and in today’s world it’s a tool for hypocrite but again religion is not one to be blamed it is the user who is responsible for distorting good and useful things into cunning ones.. For instance if I say Stalin and Mao have killed innocent people then for this I can’t blame atheism similarly if Hitler has killed millions of people then for that reason I can’t blame Christianity. I will blame the users not the tool. Another example, if homosexual marriages are happening in the churches I don’t blame bible for that its again the user. Remember purpose of tools are originally to make your life easy but if you distort them to harm others then you are responsible not the tools.
“I do? I'm pretty sure I don't know where it came from. I just don't blame magic creatures who want to hurt me if I don't believe in them for no reason.”
If you believe that Universe comes out of nothingness then can you give explanation of nothingness?
You have your reason to believe or not to believe in any effect behind any cause. If you don’t know something that doesn’t mean that thing is non-existing. It may exist or may not. The only thing is just don’t give up any try to keep searching your answers. What science is telling and how you observe the things in nature is the best place to start.
“Sure it matters. The 'inhumane' language you speak of is always inhumane and doesn't have any 'good' uses. Knives were created for good use, and are misused to harm people.”
So do you agree that it is the user of a knife to be blamed not the manufacturer?
“Words only have the power that we allow them to. If vulgar language bothers you, ignore it. We value freedom of speech too much to try and regulate the words that people use.”
What is important for an atheist, freedom of speech or respect to other human beings? I am talking about general peaceful human beings who are living peacefully without being part of troublemakers (whether they are religious or secular characters)
“As for the hostility, it is hard for some people to be polite to others that believe that atheists are immoral and deserve to burn in hell for eternity. Such beliefs are equally offensive as calling someone an "asshole," only they are weakly draped in the guise of religious dogma.”
Don’t be afraid of me. If you say me ASSHOLE I will not send you in Hell. I can’t send you in Hell. No man on earth can send you in Hell no matter he is Putin, O Bama, or Antichrist. If someone say you go to Hell answer him Go to Paradise and that will balance the equation. It is easy to make enemies than to make friends.
“As for where the universe came from, I don't know, but that doesn't mean that god did it.”
Okay, if God has not made the universe then in rational sense what you think from where it comes? Science don’t have answer and in existence of God you don’t believe. So where are you standing then?
I respect your views about God as you might have come to this view for some reason. My point is not to prove there is God rather to understand if atheism don’t believe that Universe pops out of nothingness and on the other side atheism denies the existence of God then what is the middle path. Alternatively, can I take the fact that atheism is wandering in darkness about origin of Universe?
“The religious harp on about an eternity of torture for people and even think its a good thing, but think a few 'naughty' words are awful. Most of the words are about sex or sexual organs anyway. So unless you find human reproduction inhumane I see no reason to moan about it.”
I am a married man and I love my family and my relation with my wife. I respect my family. As I respect my family, I try not to bring torture to my wife by going with another woman or by using disgraceful language with my loved ones. I try not to hurt someone’s feeling in no way. This is what religion is all about. I do agree that religion is misused brutally in the history and in today’s world it’s a tool for hypocrite but again religion is not one to be blamed it is the user who is responsible for distorting good and useful things into cunning ones.. For instance if I say Stalin and Mao have killed innocent people then for this I can’t blame atheism similarly if Hitler has killed millions of people then for that reason I can’t blame Christianity. I will blame the users not the tool. Another example, if homosexual marriages are happening in the churches I don’t blame bible for that its again the user. Remember purpose of tools are originally to make your life easy but if you distort them to harm others then you are responsible not the tools.
“I do? I'm pretty sure I don't know where it came from. I just don't blame magic creatures who want to hurt me if I don't believe in them for no reason.”
If you believe that Universe comes out of nothingness then can you give explanation of nothingness?
You have your reason to believe or not to believe in any effect behind any cause. If you don’t know something that doesn’t mean that thing is non-existing. It may exist or may not. The only thing is just don’t give up any try to keep searching your answers. What science is telling and how you observe the things in nature is the best place to start.
“Sure it matters. The 'inhumane' language you speak of is always inhumane and doesn't have any 'good' uses. Knives were created for good use, and are misused to harm people.”
So do you agree that it is the user of a knife to be blamed not the manufacturer?
“Words only have the power that we allow them to. If vulgar language bothers you, ignore it. We value freedom of speech too much to try and regulate the words that people use.”
What is important for an atheist, freedom of speech or respect to other human beings? I am talking about general peaceful human beings who are living peacefully without being part of troublemakers (whether they are religious or secular characters)
“As for the hostility, it is hard for some people to be polite to others that believe that atheists are immoral and deserve to burn in hell for eternity. Such beliefs are equally offensive as calling someone an "asshole," only they are weakly draped in the guise of religious dogma.”
Don’t be afraid of me. If you say me ASSHOLE I will not send you in Hell. I can’t send you in Hell. No man on earth can send you in Hell no matter he is Putin, O Bama, or Antichrist. If someone say you go to Hell answer him Go to Paradise and that will balance the equation. It is easy to make enemies than to make friends.
“As for where the universe came from, I don't know, but that doesn't mean that god did it.”
Okay, if God has not made the universe then in rational sense what you think from where it comes? Science don’t have answer and in existence of God you don’t believe. So where are you standing then?
