(May 13, 2013 at 8:21 pm)whateverist Wrote:(May 13, 2013 at 6:45 pm)Texas Sailor Wrote: I do not know the answers to all the questions. That's okay. I have no reason to invoke any conscious agent or unimbodied mind as the answer.
And neither do I.
(May 13, 2013 at 6:45 pm)Texas Sailor Wrote: Nobody else on this planet has special access to any hidden applicable information that is not also made available to me, therefore ..
You may be right but that's a lot more than I know. I have no more reason for believing this premise than I do for believing any of the claims made by theists.
(May 13, 2013 at 6:45 pm)Texas Sailor Wrote: .. nobody else has any more justification for invoking any Gods of their choosing and calling it true either.
Being unable to buy the premise, neither can I claim the conclusion.
(May 13, 2013 at 6:45 pm)Texas Sailor Wrote: Present me with any concept you suppose to be true, without having a reason grounded in reality to support it, and I will reject it outright as well.
Try this one. I believe that reflection will often reveal more than any tabulation of what I know to be true can reveal. I likewise find that my sense of composition is worth sharing even though I don't have any formal instruction in that. I also attribute great value to flights of inspiration even though I do not build them up upon a solid footing of true belief. In short, I find great value in that which originates in the unconscious rather than being assembled through reason with the conscious mind. Reject away. I doubt if our theist brethren will feel in any more loss from your rejection than do I.
(May 13, 2013 at 6:45 pm)Texas Sailor Wrote: There is nothing available that could justify bridging the gap of my ignorance with imagination.[/hide]
That is why I do not believe theists, and reject their claims of theism.
I hear you. I likewise acknowledge no god claims. However I am not in as big a hurry to proclaim them untrue or unworthy. To do that might require that I cast out my own unsupportable beliefs, which I will not do.
As usual, you have provided substantial constructive insight. After first glance, there were several red flags raised as indicators that I missed my intended point, which is often the case, however, it is late and I am
In bed. I want to give your responses the attention I think they deserve. Be assured that tomorrow I will better equipped to offer well constructed thoughts in response to the ones you provided. Goodnight! (And remind me that I have unrelated morality questions concerning dogs! Seriously, my dog has been making think!)
