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This Should Get Interesting....
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RE: This Should Get Interesting....
(May 24, 2013 at 5:03 am)ideologue08 Wrote: Thanks for your take. Personally I have no issue with someone perving me privately, I can't read their mind and I'm thankful for that. But when they openly declare that they find guys sexually attractive, then I'm sorry but they cannot expect the same treatment in the changing rooms or even outside the changing rooms (as you know, sports players do hug one another when they score goals or points etc. And they do put arms around eachother). I would never do that with a gay teammate, ever, how can I do that when I know they are sexually attracted to guys already? There'd be no difference between hugging a girl in that case and being with a guy. If the guy is not openly gay, then I would have no idea what he's thinking and so I wouldn't be careful like that, but when you declare it openly, it makes a big difference.

I guess I'm wondering what your issue is, then? What's so harmful about someone finding you attractive? Now, if the guy was feeling you up every time you were in contact, staring inappropriately, stuff like that, then yeah, I see your point. But just being attracted to you?

If it's just a squeamishness thing, then yeah, whatever. I take issue with people being outright exclusionary based on their own squeamishness, but if you've got an issue and you deal with it privately without expecting the rest of the world to accommodate, then it's hardly something I'm going to be offended at. Tongue

However, I do wanna ask: do you have this same fear with straight women? That they're all attracted to you because they're attracted to men? That'd be an interesting life to lead. Wink

Quote:Both in the army and in sports, teammates help one another in stretching exercises as you might know, are you really that surprised when guys don't want their legs to be touched by a homosexual? I mean, is that really surprising, I don't think so.

It is to me: just because I can be attracted to men, doesn't mean I'm attracted to every man. Nor does it mean that every physical contact I have with a guy is sexual in nature. Your personal preferences are your own, I just don't want you thinking we're all on the pull all the time! Big Grin

Quote: Once you make your sexual attraction to guys clear, it is not possible for guys to ignore that because it's clear that guys do turn you on. I would never change next to a homosexual for modesty reasons the same way I wouldn't change next to a girl.

I'm glad you mentioned women too. Tongue

Quote: The bigotry only started once he came out in the open, if your sexually doesn't matter then why do you have to say you're gay when you know that there's plenty to look at in a changing room, and there's plenty of touching in sports, football is after all, a contact sport.

My sexuality doesn't matter to me, it's not some world defining trait, it's just another part of the package. But it does matter to other people, and it does matter in the wrong ways, sometimes. It's not so much about coming out for the sake of being out, but about coming out so that someday we live in a world where someone being gay isn't huge news, any more than someone being straight would be.
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This Should Get Interesting.... - by Minimalist - May 23, 2013 at 8:39 pm
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by festive1 - May 23, 2013 at 8:44 pm
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by Tonus - May 23, 2013 at 9:00 pm
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by Jackalope - May 23, 2013 at 9:26 pm
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by Minimalist - May 23, 2013 at 8:57 pm
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by Whateverist - May 23, 2013 at 9:12 pm
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by Dragonetti - May 23, 2013 at 9:31 pm
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by Minimalist - May 23, 2013 at 9:35 pm
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by ideologue08 - May 23, 2013 at 9:38 pm
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by Jackalope - May 23, 2013 at 9:46 pm
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by ideologue08 - May 24, 2013 at 3:34 am
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by Esquilax - May 24, 2013 at 4:25 am
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by ideologue08 - May 24, 2013 at 5:03 am
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by Esquilax - May 24, 2013 at 5:29 am
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by Ben Davis - May 24, 2013 at 7:09 am
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by ideologue08 - May 24, 2013 at 7:16 am
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by festive1 - May 24, 2013 at 7:49 am
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by ideologue08 - May 24, 2013 at 8:52 am
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by Ben Davis - May 29, 2013 at 8:15 am
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by festive1 - May 24, 2013 at 10:13 am
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by ideologue08 - May 24, 2013 at 10:17 am
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by Minimalist - May 23, 2013 at 9:50 pm
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by Jackalope - May 23, 2013 at 9:57 pm
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by Minimalist - May 23, 2013 at 10:15 pm
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by Whateverist - May 24, 2013 at 6:18 am
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by ideologue08 - May 24, 2013 at 6:39 am
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by Whateverist - May 24, 2013 at 6:43 am
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by ideologue08 - May 24, 2013 at 7:01 am
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by Whateverist - May 24, 2013 at 7:50 am
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by CapnAwesome - May 25, 2013 at 11:37 am
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by A Theist - May 24, 2013 at 8:10 am
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by Minimalist - May 24, 2013 at 11:15 am
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by A Theist - May 24, 2013 at 6:33 pm
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by A Theist - May 24, 2013 at 9:22 am
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by Faith No More - May 24, 2013 at 7:17 pm
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by festive1 - May 24, 2013 at 10:44 am
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by Whateverist - May 24, 2013 at 10:45 am
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by ideologue08 - May 24, 2013 at 11:09 am
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by Minimalist - May 24, 2013 at 7:24 pm
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by Whateverist - May 25, 2013 at 12:35 am
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by Tonus - May 24, 2013 at 7:29 pm
RE: This Should Get Interesting.... - by Whateverist - May 25, 2013 at 3:02 pm

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