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November 28, 2008 at 2:36 pm
(This post was last modified: November 28, 2008 at 2:43 pm by Psalm 23.)
(November 28, 2008 at 12:36 pm)leo-rcc Wrote: What makes you think someone "turns" to atheism? There is nothing to turn to. Atheism means not believing in gods, that is hardly any effort, just hearing what a religion has to say and either believe it or not.Well, from my past experiences with many atheists, they all have told me, "The Bible made me an atheist." So, I just assumed atheists turned against God after reading the bible.
Quote:As for "why take a risk" well if you don't believe in a heaven or hell, threatening someone with the prospect is not helping much does it? And even if your god is real, if I don't believe in him but go through the motions pretending to believe in him, don't you think your God sees right through that lie? No, Pascal's wager makes no sense.Well, I guess the same question that was asked to Richard Dawkins, "What if you're wrong?" It would be the same as, "Why take a risk?" So, let me rephrase that. "What if the Jewish God does exist?" Wouldn't that be the same as "why take a risk?"
As a Christian, I do not threaten people with Hell. Believers or Non-Believers. I'm not the judge of mankind.
I think Pascal's wager makes perfectly good sense."If I'm wrong I win, If your wrong, you will know about it forever, and ever!!"
I don't see what's the big deal in believing ancient man spoke to a higher authority. Makes logical sense if you think about it. This higher authority was speaking to mankind to set the laws of the western civilization. As you know, the 10 Commandments are the moral laws of the Western World.
The Pagans were slaughtering their own children in the name of their gods.. meanwhile The LORD was preaching to Moses, "Do not Kill, Do not put other gods before me, and do not commit adultery..etc,etc,etc.."
Peace
(November 28, 2008 at 1:40 pm)Ace Wrote: Ok, now I turn away from ALL gods simply because of a lack of evidence. I cannot dis-prove god, you cannot prove it. There for, I take the position, dis-belief.I don't think "Lack of evidence" is such a solid argument. I mean, has Science created a machine that can explore the entire Universe simultaneously? If not, then how are you 100% sure God is not among us? The answer is simple. You can't. Lack of Evidence only works if you have explored every single option. Since that cannot be completed. You are living a dangerous risk.
Quote:Also, no one would actually intentional go and attack you, but you must understand that your claims (god, hell ect) will be heavily criticised. Your so called god is called an arsewhole all the time. We blasphermy as much as we can, and your claims will be criticised alot. Your also expected to bring evidence if you wish to convert anyone.Well, I hope no one would attack me. I treat people as they treat me. I think religious discussion can be a good thing if it's not thrown into each other's faces like a food fight. That's for immature atheists and christians.
Quote:Anyway, if you don't mind that, enjoy the forumThanks, I will enjoy my stay.
(November 28, 2008 at 1:33 pm)Tiberius Wrote:Ha! Not to sound rude or ignorant towards you, but how can you blasphemy something, or someone that doesn't exist?(November 28, 2008 at 12:15 pm)Psalm 23 Wrote: I will reply to everyone in a friendly manner, but I will NOT reply to insults, defamatory statements or remarks, or slanderous remarks towards God.I'm afraid you might be in the wrong forum. We blaspheme as much as possible.