Childhood indoctrination

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They also breed and raise the animals for the sole purpose of becoming food... There wouldn't be near the number of cattle or chickens in the world today if we weren't raising them for food.

I'm just saying, baby steps. I don't foresee a world in which enough people convert to vegetarianism/veganism to put an end to animals being eaten... But I do think change is possible within the industry, with carnivores joining the cause. Letting chickens be free range vs. crammed in a tiny box or an overcrowded coop, unable to stand due to their large breasts, for instance. This would make life better for the chickens, even if they still get eaten in the end, and the meat tastes better. I'm more concerned about the quality of life for the animal, than it being slaughtered and eaten. I think that's a good hurdle to start on rather than trying to convince people "meat is murder."

Both approaches are necessary together, that is, both welfarism and abolition. If I were being wrongly imprisoned, I would need my family to campaign for two things: 1. my release (abolition) and 2. improvement of the conditions in which I am imprisoned (welfarism).

Only doing option 1 means I get beaten and raped in prison, and only doing option 2 means I have to accept wrongful imprisonment and basically concede defeat.

Example: I had a friend growing up whose father was a poultry farmer. He was moving turkeys from one house to another when it started to rain. He lost somewhere around 1/3rd to half the turkeys because they put their heads back and drowned... Me thinks an animal this stupid should probably be eaten because they could never survive on their own. I'm not concerned with turkey-rape happening in those overcrowded houses... I do think they shouldn't be in over-crowded conditions, but they're definitely at least a few notches down from being intelligent, emotional creatures worthy of "every life is sacred" status.