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Is it egotistical to think that a God would die for you?
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RE: Is it egotistical to think that a God would die for you?
The only person who thought of Jesus' death on the cross as a sacrifice at the time it was being done was Jesus himself.
To the rest, it was either brutal murder or punishment for a heretic.
Nobody strapped Jesus to a cross for their sins to be forgiven.
Jesus willingly sacrificed himself (notice how the word 'sacrifice' is being used in another sense here) for the good of mankind. It was not forced from him by either God or man.

(June 2, 2013 at 9:58 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
(June 2, 2013 at 9:51 pm)Consilius Wrote: God voluntarily took on the penalty for sin as Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ wasn't killed by God the Father, the people he was saving from death killed him, and unknowingly caused the events that brought them their own salvation.
More pious prattle? I still don't see any evidence that any jesus ever did anything. Your just-so stories about who and why (and lacking a how) don't have the power to change this narrative from being one of scapegoating.

You, as an atheist, don't believe Jesus existed because you see no historical evidence for his existence. I, as a Christian, believe Jesus existed because I do see historical evidence for his existence. Battle that one out somewhere else. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tUB5fDW5xq8
Quote:My point exactly. In the same way, God couldn't let the sin just dissipate into the air. It had to be done away with, and someone had to pay for it.
God provided the bail for the people who had offended him.
Lets add that to the long list of things your god can't do then? The manner of payment is precisely what I take issue with in this fairy tale.
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Can the President send the U.S. Army after Republicans? I'm not saying that God cannot fashion some other means of saving mankind. What I AM saying is that forgetting the injustices of everybody would be immoral. God wouldn't be worth worshipping if he just let some of our sins slide.
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RE: Is it egotistical to think that a God would die for you? - by Consilius - June 2, 2013 at 10:32 pm

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