(June 24, 2013 at 2:50 pm)Tiberius Wrote:(June 24, 2013 at 2:42 pm)Raven Wrote: Classical liberalism has precious little to do with the modern concept of liberalism. FDR, Truman, LBJ, Dennis Kucinich - that's liberalism as currently understood.That was my point! You said "They were never liberal, never wanted to be."
The Libertarian movement evolved out of the classical liberal movement, after liberal started to mean something else. Libertarians were at one point the very definition of "liberal".
True enough, but that was back so long ago - who cares? Today's libertarians find modern liberalism repellent. They have no use for social welfare programs, they just want no regulations, no taxes, privatize everything and if you don't make it on your own, too bad.
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― Christopher Hitchens
"That fear first created the gods is perhaps as true as anything so brief could be on so great a subject". - George Santayana
"If this is the best God can do, I'm not impressed". - George Carlin