RE: If you believe in the God of the Bible, why try to prove it logically?
July 4, 2013 at 6:06 pm
(This post was last modified: July 4, 2013 at 6:14 pm by fr0d0.)
Missy C
Square 1 is good! If we can agree on that we can get somewhere
"The version of God you relate is anti God. It's self contradictory/defeats itself. I think you're perfectly justified in rejecting it."
This is not me saying you get God as I and the rest of the Christians here get God. Your version is a bad guy, and I'm saying that you're justified in hating your god.
Maybe you got that already :p
I've tried to explain how we understand God to be good.
1. That was how the Jews conceptualised God. They didn't write anything contradicting that.
2. Our intellectual construct, to be coherent, has to originate in a Moral/good/loving first cause. If it didn't you could disprove that concept very simply using logic.
3. There is absolutely zero evidence in the bible of God's fallibility. People construe killing to be always evil, by forcing limited knowledge onto God. Only by redefining the nature of God could that accusation stick. And as that fails to address the subject (God), we can dismiss it.
You don't need to agree or understand any of that though for it to be true for all of the Christians here. Just like I don't have to agree with Rayaan when he says that Allah is good. Rayaan doesn't satisfy my criticisms with his explanations, but I still cannot dispute that Rayaan says this is true for Islam.
What you or I understand matters diddly squat to the fact that this is what another person understands.
@Esq
When have you seen me invoke a non rational explanation? I think your post is grossly disingenuous.
Square 1 is good! If we can agree on that we can get somewhere
"The version of God you relate is anti God. It's self contradictory/defeats itself. I think you're perfectly justified in rejecting it."
This is not me saying you get God as I and the rest of the Christians here get God. Your version is a bad guy, and I'm saying that you're justified in hating your god.
Maybe you got that already :p
I've tried to explain how we understand God to be good.
1. That was how the Jews conceptualised God. They didn't write anything contradicting that.
2. Our intellectual construct, to be coherent, has to originate in a Moral/good/loving first cause. If it didn't you could disprove that concept very simply using logic.
3. There is absolutely zero evidence in the bible of God's fallibility. People construe killing to be always evil, by forcing limited knowledge onto God. Only by redefining the nature of God could that accusation stick. And as that fails to address the subject (God), we can dismiss it.
You don't need to agree or understand any of that though for it to be true for all of the Christians here. Just like I don't have to agree with Rayaan when he says that Allah is good. Rayaan doesn't satisfy my criticisms with his explanations, but I still cannot dispute that Rayaan says this is true for Islam.
What you or I understand matters diddly squat to the fact that this is what another person understands.
@Esq
When have you seen me invoke a non rational explanation? I think your post is grossly disingenuous.
