RE: If you believe in the God of the Bible, why try to prove it logically?
July 5, 2013 at 3:40 pm
(July 5, 2013 at 5:11 am)missluckie26 Wrote: God is good to you. Fine. I have no qualms whatsoever with you fr0d0, believe what you want. I just don't understand-- which is what I thought we were trying to rectify. Yes the unfathomable part I may have pulled out of my ass so to speak but that's in essence what is being said, I thought. I thought you said that god is good because you look at his actions as being good even though you will never know why just that you trust god and his actions and intentions are good. Thats what I got from our convo, anyways. Correct me if i'm wrong if you feel like it. Or don't, I'm not sure if we will ever come to an understanding because you are incorrect in your ascertainment of my Christian background. I'm understandably frustrated that I will never live up to being a real Christian in your eyes. Even though I was. Hell, even Ronedee is: Pagan prayers and all; Because of Christ and the acceptance of his atonement for sin. I'm pretty sure Christians even claimed the Mormons last election, too.
Kudos to you for trying to understand Missy.
You have the information but you don't trust it. You'd have to trust it and then act upon it to have faith, so you're a long way from understanding.
I'm sorry you feel that I discount your whole experience. I don't. When I first became a believer, it was the result of a lot of hard study. Still faith was hard. I then became a keen believer, a bit over confident I would say. I still didn't understand a lot of huge stuff, like how Christ was God at the same time. I got some crappy answers that didn't help. Point being, no one is perfect. The terrible stuff you describe and the justification for it is all misdirected belief. The best people are susceptible to it. Somehow an aim to be so right turns out to produce something so wrong.
Love underpins my view of the world. Neutrality underpins yours.
In my view, how do you think you're doing? On a scale of fulfilled love where would you put yourself? I'm talking every aspect of life now.