(July 7, 2013 at 11:12 pm)Godschild Wrote: Let me put it this way, you believe what you wish, it's your choice. I will believe what I will, it's my choice, and we'll see who lives with God for eternity, that way you can argue with God about this matter of why you were wrong.
So, essentially your answer to the question "why are you right?" is "I'm right."?
Quote:Hoe old are you 12-13 because you act that age. I've told you before I do not deal in speculation about my life and will not for you or anyone else, it's a childish thing to do, you need to forget it I'm not going there. I do not know what Catholics believe about babies other than they should be baptized so they will go to heaven if they should die. I do not believe it's necessary, so either way the babies are in heaven and that's what's important.
Well, good job even considering the possibility that you don't know absolutely everything. You're doing a great job appearing to be rational and not at all a gigantic ego wrapped in human skin.
Quote:According to scripture if your sleeping with dudes you're living in sin and unrepentant sin will land you in hell, whether you claim to be a Christian or not. See, I said you did not understand salvation and you do not, salvation is by the grace of God not by anything you can do.
I can go to the church up the road and get told that I can go to heaven, dudesex or not, if only I'll accept christ. Prove to us that your view is the correct one.
GC Wrote:The issue has always been the truth of scripture. The content of the believer's mind should be the truth received from God through scripture. Making the words of the Bible extremely important, just because this truth of God does not suit you does not make a bit of difference.
Here you are saying you're an expert on God's word, so bring the proof of your statement, I'll be waiting.
I never said any such thing. What I did say, if you were paying attention, is that it's fairly easy to find interpretations of the scriptures that differ wildly from yours. And all of which are said with utter conviction, just like yours.
So, why is your interpretation the right one, and why are they wrong?
GC Wrote:Your ignorance of the word of God and salvation makes that statement... well let's say you have no idea what your talking about. You can make all these silly assertions you want, but until you can bring some intelligent thought into this I'm done.
Prove that your position is reflective of reality.
GC Wrote:I do not know what they claim, any church that would do hateful acts as they do should come into question, they do with most of the Christians I know and probably all, I haven't asked all of them. If that's their view they will have to live with it, there are others who claim the same, I can't change them, doesn't matter I will be in heaven.
How do you know? What is your proof that you have it right and they all have it wrong?
Quote:I can't help how others believe, they've made their choice. I do not agree that a person being gay will get them a date with the devil, a gay can be a Christian, however they can not act upon their desires of wanting to be with someone of the same sex, that God says is an sinful act.
Is it the act, or the thought, that gets you into hell? Matthew 5:28, again. How do you know your position here correlates with reality?
Quote:Ask what, you need to be clearer.
If I were to ask any given preacher, regardless of the content of their preaching, how they know they have it right, most likely they'll tell me personal experience. Some are on record doing so, even when their positions contradict one another. How do I know who has it right?
GC Wrote:If you want to discuss the Bible then you need to read it, if you do not read it how are we to have a discussion. There was nothing to answer, I've been waiting on a sensible question from scripture.
You've yet to provide a shred of proof that your position is correct, beyond simply asserting it. Why don't you do that first? Else all we're doing is speculating meaninglessly.
GC Wrote:I do not know anyone who disagrees with the way I came to salvation, do you? If an experience does not line up with the truth of scripture it was not real.
And what's the truth of scripture? What you say it is? How do you know you're right?
I could keep going, but what's the point? You steadfastly refuse to let us in on anything that might be considered evidence, so... why should any of us take you as anything other than a raving lunatic?
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