@Consilius: universe started with the big bang, as far as we know.
For the rest of the things you said after:
I have explained to you why a logical answer that fits into "your logic" doesn't necessarily make it the right answer. Logic isn't the only thing in play when you're talking about cosmology you have to address the laws of physics. Which i'm not qualified to comment too much on, so i won't pretend like i can discuss the merits of different theories.
And no, nobody has to disprove a theory to disregard it. If your theory has no observational or testable hypothesis, it's a sucky theory. It means it can never be proven or disproven. Furthermore, there are multiple theories going on right now about the universe. Because they haven't been disproven yet. They haven't had enough supporting evidence either. so that's what they are, possibilities.
You seem unable to understand the meaning of possibilities. Just because something is possible doesn't mean it has to be correct. Multiple things can be possible at the same time. There are even gradations of possibilities, there's a great possibility that a human is typing this, but there's also a very small possibility that a monkey is typing this. Even if we grant that your theory is possible, if it cannot be proven, what good is it?
A good theory assumes little and explains a lot. You assume waaaaayyy too much. Assuming is every time you state something you do not have evidence for. A way to test this is if you try to convince someone of this, you seem to have to make more assumptions, instead of just presenting evidence.
Before the beginning of the universe there was no time. Cause and effect would be more than a little messed up, i would think.
And i do have a question for you, consilius. If you think the beginning and the end of the universe is something you can solve by sitting in a chair, with no math or physics whatsoever, why do you think there are so many scientists building equipments and telescopes and particle accelerators to figure it out? This is a genuine question, i'm not attempting to insult you, i am genuinely curious.
For the rest of the things you said after:
I have explained to you why a logical answer that fits into "your logic" doesn't necessarily make it the right answer. Logic isn't the only thing in play when you're talking about cosmology you have to address the laws of physics. Which i'm not qualified to comment too much on, so i won't pretend like i can discuss the merits of different theories.
And no, nobody has to disprove a theory to disregard it. If your theory has no observational or testable hypothesis, it's a sucky theory. It means it can never be proven or disproven. Furthermore, there are multiple theories going on right now about the universe. Because they haven't been disproven yet. They haven't had enough supporting evidence either. so that's what they are, possibilities.
You seem unable to understand the meaning of possibilities. Just because something is possible doesn't mean it has to be correct. Multiple things can be possible at the same time. There are even gradations of possibilities, there's a great possibility that a human is typing this, but there's also a very small possibility that a monkey is typing this. Even if we grant that your theory is possible, if it cannot be proven, what good is it?
A good theory assumes little and explains a lot. You assume waaaaayyy too much. Assuming is every time you state something you do not have evidence for. A way to test this is if you try to convince someone of this, you seem to have to make more assumptions, instead of just presenting evidence.
Before the beginning of the universe there was no time. Cause and effect would be more than a little messed up, i would think.
And i do have a question for you, consilius. If you think the beginning and the end of the universe is something you can solve by sitting in a chair, with no math or physics whatsoever, why do you think there are so many scientists building equipments and telescopes and particle accelerators to figure it out? This is a genuine question, i'm not attempting to insult you, i am genuinely curious.