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Poll: Have you given fair (scientifically detached from preconceptions) consideration to a debate between racists and egalitarians?
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Yes. and the egalitiarians, being right, always win.
26.67%
4 26.67%
Yes, and most of the time the egalitarians are the more convincing.
26.67%
4 26.67%
Yes, and I've noticed that both sides often make persuasive cases.
13.33%
2 13.33%
Yes, and most of the time the racists are the more convincing.
6.67%
1 6.67%
Yes, and the racists, being right, always win.
6.67%
1 6.67%
No, I have never given fair consideration to a debate between a racist and an egalitarian.
20.00%
3 20.00%
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Why is racism wrong?
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RE: Why is racism wrong?
(August 22, 2013 at 7:15 pm)David Sims Wrote: That isn't true, Ryantology. Racists often spend a lot of effort showing why those "outside" factors aren't as important as the egalitarians say they are. I had just shown you an example in which a racist proves that equally poor blacks and whites don't commit murder at the same per capita rate. In that example, the racist controlled for socio-economic status by confining his sample group to only "poor people" and then demonstrating that blacks commit about three times more murders than expected.

Do we turn that around and castigate white men for being child molesters and serial killers? Both categories in the United States are overwhelmingly white males. Shall we profile all males because most rapists are males?

Poor whites and poor blacks are still not even. Black people face significant obstacles that no white person worries about, many of them the result of white racism against them. There are many other factors at work, and you're cherry picking.

Quote:Now, I happen to know from my own investigation (I checked up on this racist's claims about what the FBI Uniform Crime Reports said about Crime in the United States in 1995) that the racist didn't go as far as he might have. Because, you see, most of the 55% of US murders in the United States in 1995 having "black" perpetrators were committed by black males between the ages of 14 an 34, of which there were 8 million in the United States that year. In other words, 3% of the population perpetrated half of the murders in the whole country.

And, their skin color is responsible for this, how? Correlation proves causation now?

(August 22, 2013 at 6:06 pm)Ryantology Wrote: The racists might have an agenda, but I'm pretty sure that it isn't a desire to dominate other races. Most of the white racists living today aren't supremacists, as whites were 200 years ago.

What the agenda is is rather beside the point.

Quote:The media calls white racists "supremacists" because the media are full of leftists who deliberately use as much pejorative language against racists as they can. But most racists today are nationalists. They don't want to enslave blacks; they do want a racial homeland, a place where there are only white people living together as a white racial nation.

Then, let them get the fuck out and find some uninhabited island to populate. The rest of us can stay here in the 21st century.

Quote:Certainly, I can accept that. But individual traits, if those are the only ones allowed to matter, will not lead to equal outcomes for all races. If the YouTube Racist is right about the IQ distributions of whites and blacks, and an employer living in a demographically typical part of the United States is hiring, without the slightest racial prejudice, for a job he believes requires a minimum IQ of 130 to do well, then he will hire 1925 whites for each black hired, to fill his available positions. The NAACP would scream about discrimination, even though no bias had been used in choosing which persons were hired.

How is it not a racial prejudice to hire whites at such a large majority on the basis of nothing except their skin color?

Individual metrics won't lead to equal outcome to all races. That's the point. It demonstrates the invalidity of using race to categorize anything.
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Messages In This Thread
Why is racism wrong? - by David Sims - August 22, 2013 at 4:03 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Kayenneh - August 22, 2013 at 4:07 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by David Sims - August 22, 2013 at 4:11 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Foxaèr - August 22, 2013 at 4:15 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Faith No More - August 22, 2013 at 4:18 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Nine - August 22, 2013 at 4:19 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Mister Agenda - August 22, 2013 at 4:29 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by David Sims - August 22, 2013 at 6:15 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Mister Agenda - August 23, 2013 at 3:28 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by My imaginary friend is GOD - August 22, 2013 at 4:09 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by David Sims - August 22, 2013 at 5:20 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Mister Agenda - August 23, 2013 at 2:53 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by CleanShavenJesus - August 22, 2013 at 4:15 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Nine - August 22, 2013 at 4:15 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Captain Colostomy - August 22, 2013 at 4:21 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Mister Agenda - August 22, 2013 at 4:26 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Gilgamesh - August 22, 2013 at 5:11 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by David Sims - August 22, 2013 at 7:37 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by paulpablo - August 23, 2013 at 8:29 am
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by A Theist - August 23, 2013 at 8:37 am
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Tonus - August 23, 2013 at 8:44 am
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Gilgamesh - August 23, 2013 at 5:45 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by ITChick - August 22, 2013 at 4:32 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Mister Agenda - August 22, 2013 at 4:41 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Minimalist - August 22, 2013 at 5:03 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by freedomfromforum - August 22, 2013 at 5:08 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Doubting Thomas - August 22, 2013 at 5:57 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Ryantology - August 22, 2013 at 6:06 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by David Sims - August 22, 2013 at 7:15 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Ryantology - August 23, 2013 at 1:04 am
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by pineapplebunnybounce - August 22, 2013 at 8:29 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Faith No More - August 22, 2013 at 8:46 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by pineapplebunnybounce - August 22, 2013 at 8:49 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Kayenneh - August 23, 2013 at 12:19 am
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by max-greece - August 23, 2013 at 1:32 am
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Ryantology - August 23, 2013 at 10:22 am
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Jackalope - August 23, 2013 at 12:48 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Minimalist - August 23, 2013 at 3:21 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by max-greece - August 23, 2013 at 6:01 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Gilgamesh - August 23, 2013 at 6:10 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by kılıç_mehmet - September 2, 2013 at 3:55 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Chas - September 2, 2013 at 4:13 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by kılıç_mehmet - September 2, 2013 at 7:26 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 12:30 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by kılıç_mehmet - September 3, 2013 at 4:20 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by CapnAwesome - September 3, 2013 at 4:46 pm

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