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Poll: Have you given fair (scientifically detached from preconceptions) consideration to a debate between racists and egalitarians?
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Yes. and the egalitiarians, being right, always win.
26.67%
4 26.67%
Yes, and most of the time the egalitarians are the more convincing.
26.67%
4 26.67%
Yes, and I've noticed that both sides often make persuasive cases.
13.33%
2 13.33%
Yes, and most of the time the racists are the more convincing.
6.67%
1 6.67%
Yes, and the racists, being right, always win.
6.67%
1 6.67%
No, I have never given fair consideration to a debate between a racist and an egalitarian.
20.00%
3 20.00%
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Why is racism wrong?
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RE: Why is racism wrong?
(September 2, 2013 at 4:13 pm)Chas Wrote:
(September 2, 2013 at 3:55 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Well, depends on how you define racism. Obviously the current use of the term bears negative connections, due to the leftist ideals that have influenced current world views.
In all, racism is to love one's own race above other races. This is what it means.
Racism, in itself, contains both realism and romanticism. The realism aspect comes into play when confronted with "egalitarian" ideologies. Obviously, the truth of the world is, that it is not egaliarian in nature. Some races thrive more than others, and some are subjugated to other races. Some are forced to lead an existence as only minorities, confined in pockets, within a majority that they have to be content with.
Some are, on the other hand, masters of others, as much as egalitarians would wish to deny it.
Equality is a notion that exists on paper and in thought, and has no place in the real world.

The romantic aspect of racism plays also a major role. IF the realistic aspect serves as the walls of a house romanticism are the ornamets that adorn the walls. Romaniticism is based on national myths, archivements, history, linguistic and ethnic pride based on the former ones. Indeed, its an important aspect of any racial ideology.
But most of all, racial ideologies require a person to develop a devotion to the said race's future, based on the pride of the past, to create a greater future, to bring forth a zeal in people so that they strive to make their own kin the greatest in the world in terms of science, political status, arts and etc.

Of course, today, the usage of "race" is a rather vague term. It comes down on the definition of "race" in the said racial ideology. White nationalists generally denote the white race as being "of European descent", in total disregard of any and all ethno-linguistical differences between the European nations, may they be French, Spanish, English, and even Slavic.
Turkish nationalists denote race in terms of tribal descent from the current, or ancient Turkish tribes, and sometimes encompassing Altaic-speaking populations as a whole.
German nationalists of the 3rd Reich days denoted race in the same terms, of being of the German tribes of old, and they did not have a concept of "whiteness" as do the white nationalists today, they did not incorporate Slavs into what they called Aryans.
In short, I generally view "race" as being more than just simply superficial characteristics. Although such characteristics may be of some importance, what matters more is generally the consciousness of the person.
A person will usually exhibit an ethnic consciousness, not always related to race, as it is with the Balkans, where ethnic consciousness is based on religious affiliation, but in cases where it comes down to race, there are a few important aspects that must be considered. The matrilineal and patrilineal descent of the person, if homogenous, and have been so for at least four or more generations will create the same consciousness in the person, which in turn will affect the person's outlook on life, the language he/she speaks, and the culture he/she adheres to. IF that person adopts an ideology based on these factors of descent, language, and culture, and if his kin has some sort of a collective national identity, he will become a nationalist, based on the very same "race" that constitutes the said nation.

And all such national/ethnic/tribal ideologies are dangerous and based on fear. No good ever comes of them.

Yeah, the basis of the foundation of the majority of the countries on earth are all dangerous. If not for them, Britain would still rule the Mid-east and most of Africa, along with India too!
Why? Because no one is really concerned about who their rulers are. Foreigners? Bah, they're just humans from another part of the earth, we're all brothers, so why really feel the need to rule ourselves? Colonists may have a monopoly on our salt, but who cares, we're all humans and should share, right.
Same, Americans, they come to take over our economy, let them. No need to favor our products over theirs, no need to protect our local produce over theirs, thats racist and outdated, we are afraid that they'll take over our economy and have us work as their thralls.

No mate, you're wrong. Nationalism is the way to freedom, nationalism is the way to total absolution of the different peoples of earth.
Nationalism revives folks out of their stupor of idleness and makes them work, makes them fight for a cause, makes them strive for greater heights, makes them create countries, makes them fight colonists and oppressors.
At the same time, it forces them to look up to themselves to find strength instead of others.
Any nation devoid of nationalist ideals is a nation bound to be dominated and enslaved.
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Why is racism wrong? - by David Sims - August 22, 2013 at 4:03 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Kayenneh - August 22, 2013 at 4:07 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by David Sims - August 22, 2013 at 4:11 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Foxaèr - August 22, 2013 at 4:15 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Faith No More - August 22, 2013 at 4:18 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Nine - August 22, 2013 at 4:19 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Mister Agenda - August 22, 2013 at 4:29 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by David Sims - August 22, 2013 at 6:15 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Mister Agenda - August 23, 2013 at 3:28 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by My imaginary friend is GOD - August 22, 2013 at 4:09 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by David Sims - August 22, 2013 at 5:20 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Mister Agenda - August 23, 2013 at 2:53 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by CleanShavenJesus - August 22, 2013 at 4:15 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Nine - August 22, 2013 at 4:15 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Captain Colostomy - August 22, 2013 at 4:21 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Mister Agenda - August 22, 2013 at 4:26 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Gilgamesh - August 22, 2013 at 5:11 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by David Sims - August 22, 2013 at 7:37 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by paulpablo - August 23, 2013 at 8:29 am
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by A Theist - August 23, 2013 at 8:37 am
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Tonus - August 23, 2013 at 8:44 am
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Gilgamesh - August 23, 2013 at 5:45 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by ITChick - August 22, 2013 at 4:32 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Mister Agenda - August 22, 2013 at 4:41 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Minimalist - August 22, 2013 at 5:03 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by freedomfromforum - August 22, 2013 at 5:08 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Doubting Thomas - August 22, 2013 at 5:57 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Ryantology - August 22, 2013 at 6:06 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by David Sims - August 22, 2013 at 7:15 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Ryantology - August 23, 2013 at 1:04 am
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by pineapplebunnybounce - August 22, 2013 at 8:29 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Faith No More - August 22, 2013 at 8:46 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by pineapplebunnybounce - August 22, 2013 at 8:49 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Kayenneh - August 23, 2013 at 12:19 am
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by max-greece - August 23, 2013 at 1:32 am
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Ryantology - August 23, 2013 at 10:22 am
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Jackalope - August 23, 2013 at 12:48 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Minimalist - August 23, 2013 at 3:21 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by max-greece - August 23, 2013 at 6:01 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Gilgamesh - August 23, 2013 at 6:10 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by kılıç_mehmet - September 2, 2013 at 3:55 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Chas - September 2, 2013 at 4:13 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by kılıç_mehmet - September 2, 2013 at 7:26 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 12:30 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by kılıç_mehmet - September 3, 2013 at 4:20 pm
RE: Why is racism wrong? - by CapnAwesome - September 3, 2013 at 4:46 pm

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