RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
October 18, 2013 at 1:11 pm
(October 18, 2013 at 11:07 am)Sword of Christ Wrote: We're not an accident alright?
How many times are you going to attempt to argue from personal incredulity?
Quote: The universe clearly built up toward greater level of precisely arranged complexity over time and we're the most complex objects in the known universe sitting right here this was built around a system of physical laws that had to be 100% perfectly arranged without error.
Actually, this is precisely false. Complexity occurs in isolated clusters which are ultimately transient. The universe, as a whole, is progressing steadily towards thermal equilibrium.
Quote:You're not just saying you don't know whether God exists or not you're saying you don't give a fuck about him if he does, you may as well just not give a fuck about anything then.
Gotta be a bridge to cross before we can cross it.
Quote:No not my god, your God, our God, the God with a capital G. God is the context he is the creator and the reason for existence, everything the whole lot. Without him there is no reason because he is the reason.
Funny how THE God always very conveniently coincides with your god, no matter which strain of theist you speak to.
Quote: If God doesn't exist then there is no such as morality or good and evil we just made it up and everyone's opinion is as valid as anyone else.
Welcome to objective reality.
Quote:If God doesn't exist how are we meant to have freewill?
Who says we were?
Quote:We would be the product of physically explainable processes and we can explain and predict all these processes as they are mechanistically determined.
Seems to be precisely the case, though the mechanism is far too vast in scope for us to make any kind of useful predictions on the individual level.
Quote:If we are created in the image of God then we share in the freewill he has seeing as he is a being beyond the natural order who purposefully created the natural order. We are the product of Gods creation.
That's a mighty big 'if' you've entirely failed to justify.
Quote: There wasn't a time before God created time. God may well have created other universes but they will have their own time streams. God exists beyond time but is relational to it. A bit of William Lane Craig on this subject.
pfsnx
Quote:The Holy Spirit tells you or something, I don't know why does matter what parts are literally true? What matters is whether God exists and whether the Bible is the spiritual tool you can use to commune with this very same God. It's a Holy book that's what it's for.
And so far, no believer has ever successfully demonstrated that it has ever successfully accomplished this purpose.
Quote:It makes sense because it is true and if it wasn't true it wouldn't make much sense but it does makes sense so it is! ARGH!
Just keep on believing, and one day... just kidding, it will still be bullshit.
