RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
October 18, 2013 at 4:51 pm
(October 18, 2013 at 4:43 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: Yes but there is no evidence for God you would accept because you can't prove God with science. Science has nothing to say about this.
Two things: yes you can, if god interacts with the physical world at all, and if he doesn't then why should anyone give a crap?
Secondly, as I've explained to you multiple times now, scientific indications aren't the only type of evidence that I would accept. The trouble is- and I suspect that this is the reason you're ignoring me on this so consistently- is that you don't have any other type of evidence either.
Quote: But you can use scientific data to support the concept of a universe created for life, fine tuning and so on.
You've been told how this isn't so. You're just lying, now. Why do you intentionally sin, if you're a christian?
Quote: Yes so without the other kinds of evidence you are going to end up with some kind of deism but that's a start. You can also use philosophical evidence to demonstrate the rationality of an uncaused cause of things that are caused.
The uncaused cause argument is simply special pleading, and you know it. Besides, even if one were to accept it, you still haven't provided a justification for why that uncaused thing must be your god, and not simply the universe itself.
Beyond simply asserting that it is and claiming that it just makes sense, I mean. Surprisingly, I don't find your incredulity incredibly convincing.
Quote: But again all you're going to do is reject it all because you just want to believe what you want to believe. It's easier to sit there and ask for evidence perfectly well know doesn't exist and can't exist.
Bullshit. This is just pathetic, Sword: instead of just answering my questions, you just reinterpret my motivations so that you don't have to feel bad about how spectacularly you're failing to support your position. I could do that to, with the same level of evidence as you have, but I don't, because I'm not a fucking child.
Just admit it: you don't have anything. Be honest for once.
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