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Poll: What do you choose
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For Evolution
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For Creation
2.13%
1 2.13%
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4.26%
2 4.26%
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Evolution V Creation
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RE: Evolution V Creation
rjh4 you seem to have brought this onslaught on yourself. I have not answered your two questions above because they are irrelevant and stupid. But if you must have a reply I will give you one.

1.Do you think that the killing of ants and slugs, and the like, are equivalent to the killing of humans such that you think, for example, that the Orkin man is a mass murderer?

A: No, the Orkin man is not a mass murderer, but if you define to kill or killing as" to cause the death of an organism, or the act of doing so." (definition derived from wikipedia) then it's the same thing.

2.Do you think that what Hitler and the Nazis did was acceptable/no problem as what they did is no different than what the Orkin man does?

A: What Hitler did was appalling to the utmost and in no way acceptable. But comparing that to the Orkin man shows a lack of careful consideration on your part. Most carnivorous species survive by banding together and hunting and killing prey of a weaker species they do not go around killing each other, this excludes fights for territory or mates. They kill a lower/weaker life form on the evolutionary scale. The Orkin man kills bugs ( a lower life form) and not people so to call him a mass murderer based on your ridiculous comparison is insanity.
(January 27, 2010 at 1:58 pm)rjh4 Wrote:
(January 27, 2010 at 1:27 pm)leo-rcc Wrote:
(January 27, 2010 at 12:46 pm)rjh4 Wrote: In answer to your question, though, the whole idea of man being an animal is based on evolutionary (common descent) thinking which I reject. Since I hold to a Christian/Biblical worldview and the Bible indicates that mankind was created to be greater than the animals, then I hold that we are. It is as simple as that.

What is the bibles definition of greater then?

Good question. I guess we all come to the table with our own view of what "greater than" means when it comes to comparing animals with mankind.

Relative to your question, I did not say that the Bible explicitly says that man is greater than the animals. I said the Bible indicates that this is the case. In Gen. 1:28 God give man "dominion over" the animals. When man sinned, God killed an animal to clothe man (Gen 3:21). God gave animals to man as food (Gen 9:3-4). The entire Bible is about God's plan for mankind, not animals. All of this indicates to me that we have authority and control over the animals to a degree and are worth more to God than animals and, therefore, we a "greater than" the animals in authority and worth.

I would love to see you in a cage with a hungry and angry lion with nothing but your bare hands and then you could come back and talk to me about authority and dominion, that is if you survive. Daniel and the lions den tale does not count since it's fiction and it's from the bible which has as much merit as a mass murderer caught in the act swearing he did not do it.
There is nothing people will not maintain when they are slaves to superstition

http://chatpilot-godisamyth.blogspot.com/

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Evolution V Creation - by Zen Badger - January 26, 2010 at 3:22 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Violet - January 26, 2010 at 5:15 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Zen Badger - January 26, 2010 at 6:31 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by leo-rcc - January 26, 2010 at 5:17 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Violet - January 26, 2010 at 5:22 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by leo-rcc - January 26, 2010 at 5:22 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Violet - January 26, 2010 at 5:35 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Tiberius - January 26, 2010 at 6:33 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by leo-rcc - January 26, 2010 at 6:44 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Violet - January 26, 2010 at 6:59 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - January 26, 2010 at 10:41 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Eilonnwy - January 26, 2010 at 11:14 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by chatpilot - January 26, 2010 at 12:17 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - January 26, 2010 at 2:07 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by chatpilot - January 26, 2010 at 2:51 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - January 26, 2010 at 3:42 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by chatpilot - January 26, 2010 at 4:16 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - January 26, 2010 at 4:31 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Zen Badger - January 27, 2010 at 8:54 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - January 27, 2010 at 11:51 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by leo-rcc - January 27, 2010 at 12:06 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Darwinian - February 8, 2010 at 3:03 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 8, 2010 at 12:11 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Rockthatpiano06 - January 26, 2010 at 5:55 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Autumnlicious - January 26, 2010 at 6:57 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by chatpilot - January 26, 2010 at 8:41 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by KichigaiNeko - January 27, 2010 at 5:52 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Edwardo Piet - January 27, 2010 at 6:36 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by chatpilot - January 27, 2010 at 8:58 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Autumnlicious - January 27, 2010 at 11:54 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - January 27, 2010 at 12:46 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by leo-rcc - January 27, 2010 at 1:27 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - January 27, 2010 at 1:58 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Zen Badger - January 27, 2010 at 7:38 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by chatpilot - January 27, 2010 at 2:05 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Zhalentine - January 27, 2010 at 4:14 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by chatpilot - January 27, 2010 at 4:23 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Zhalentine - January 27, 2010 at 4:43 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Meatball - January 27, 2010 at 5:48 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by leo-rcc - January 27, 2010 at 6:25 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by KichigaiNeko - January 27, 2010 at 10:35 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by chatpilot - January 28, 2010 at 1:41 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Violet - January 28, 2010 at 2:11 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Rhizomorph13 - January 28, 2010 at 1:52 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by chatpilot - January 28, 2010 at 1:54 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Rhizomorph13 - January 28, 2010 at 2:08 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Rhizomorph13 - January 28, 2010 at 2:15 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Edwardo Piet - January 28, 2010 at 6:53 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Zen Badger - January 28, 2010 at 9:50 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - January 28, 2010 at 10:56 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by leo-rcc - January 28, 2010 at 11:18 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - January 28, 2010 at 11:47 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by leo-rcc - January 28, 2010 at 11:51 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - January 28, 2010 at 12:37 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Zen Badger - January 28, 2010 at 7:35 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Edwardo Piet - January 29, 2010 at 12:13 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Dotard - January 30, 2010 at 11:29 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Tiberius - January 28, 2010 at 12:54 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by chatpilot - January 28, 2010 at 1:49 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - January 28, 2010 at 2:06 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Tiberius - January 28, 2010 at 2:34 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Welsh cake - February 6, 2010 at 7:40 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by solidsquid - February 7, 2010 at 5:00 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by TruthWorthy - February 8, 2010 at 1:05 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Darwinian - February 8, 2010 at 12:44 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 8, 2010 at 3:34 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Tiberius - February 8, 2010 at 5:15 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by TruthWorthy - February 8, 2010 at 6:47 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Zen Badger - February 9, 2010 at 6:30 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 9, 2010 at 9:27 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Darwinian - February 9, 2010 at 9:58 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 9, 2010 at 10:15 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Zen Badger - February 10, 2010 at 6:41 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 10, 2010 at 10:09 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Zen Badger - February 11, 2010 at 7:40 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 11, 2010 at 11:11 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Zen Badger - February 12, 2010 at 7:23 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 12, 2010 at 9:32 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Zen Badger - February 12, 2010 at 11:41 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 13, 2010 at 10:18 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Tiberius - February 13, 2010 at 11:06 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 14, 2010 at 10:27 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Tiberius - February 14, 2010 at 2:52 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Zen Badger - February 15, 2010 at 6:44 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Zen Badger - February 13, 2010 at 10:04 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Edwardo Piet - February 9, 2010 at 6:33 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 9, 2010 at 9:34 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Edwardo Piet - February 9, 2010 at 10:08 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 9, 2010 at 10:26 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Edwardo Piet - February 10, 2010 at 10:25 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 10, 2010 at 11:07 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Edwardo Piet - February 10, 2010 at 11:32 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 10, 2010 at 12:09 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by TruthWorthy - February 9, 2010 at 6:58 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by TruthWorthy - February 9, 2010 at 9:31 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Darwinian - February 9, 2010 at 10:18 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Darwinian - February 9, 2010 at 10:28 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 9, 2010 at 10:43 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by chatpilot - February 9, 2010 at 11:25 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 9, 2010 at 2:17 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by chatpilot - February 9, 2010 at 3:30 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 9, 2010 at 5:22 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by chatpilot - February 9, 2010 at 6:11 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by chatpilot - February 10, 2010 at 11:20 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Edwardo Piet - February 10, 2010 at 12:14 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 10, 2010 at 12:55 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by chatpilot - February 10, 2010 at 2:04 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by chatpilot - February 11, 2010 at 9:11 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Edwardo Piet - February 11, 2010 at 11:31 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 11, 2010 at 1:03 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Edwardo Piet - February 15, 2010 at 10:05 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by tackattack - February 12, 2010 at 7:42 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Minimalist - February 13, 2010 at 2:53 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Minimalist - February 13, 2010 at 12:47 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Darwinian - February 14, 2010 at 11:06 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 15, 2010 at 9:45 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Tiberius - February 15, 2010 at 5:02 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by rjh4 - February 16, 2010 at 11:07 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Tiberius - February 16, 2010 at 1:13 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Zen Badger - February 17, 2010 at 6:53 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Zen Badger - February 21, 2010 at 1:30 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Zen Badger - February 16, 2010 at 7:29 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Minimalist - February 14, 2010 at 1:13 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Minimalist - February 16, 2010 at 1:23 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by tavarish - February 16, 2010 at 1:54 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Minimalist - February 16, 2010 at 4:21 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by padraic - February 17, 2010 at 12:37 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Minimalist - February 17, 2010 at 12:44 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Darwinian - February 17, 2010 at 7:11 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by tavarish - February 17, 2010 at 4:11 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Darwinian - February 18, 2010 at 6:29 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by tavarish - February 18, 2010 at 11:03 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by KichigaiNeko - February 18, 2010 at 2:57 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Darwinian - February 18, 2010 at 6:30 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by theVOID - February 19, 2010 at 2:23 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Rhizomorph13 - February 18, 2010 at 1:21 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by tavarish - February 18, 2010 at 1:26 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Tiberius - February 18, 2010 at 2:41 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by fr0d0 - February 18, 2010 at 4:05 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by leo-rcc - February 19, 2010 at 1:45 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Shell B - February 19, 2010 at 1:59 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Shell B - February 19, 2010 at 2:27 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by theVOID - February 19, 2010 at 2:55 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by leo-rcc - February 19, 2010 at 5:19 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Shell B - February 19, 2010 at 3:00 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by theVOID - February 19, 2010 at 3:13 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Shell B - February 19, 2010 at 3:16 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Tiberius - February 19, 2010 at 10:26 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by tavarish - February 19, 2010 at 11:19 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by leo-rcc - February 19, 2010 at 10:35 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by leo-rcc - February 19, 2010 at 11:27 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by tavarish - February 19, 2010 at 3:02 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by padraic - February 19, 2010 at 6:14 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Ashes1995 - February 21, 2010 at 4:49 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by padraic - February 21, 2010 at 9:17 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by tavarish - February 21, 2010 at 11:02 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by garbishcan - January 12, 2013 at 6:06 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Aractus - January 12, 2013 at 7:24 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by TaraJo - January 12, 2013 at 11:30 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Minimalist - January 14, 2013 at 1:58 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by paulpablo - January 12, 2013 at 9:41 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Violet - January 12, 2013 at 11:13 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by pocaracas - January 12, 2013 at 2:47 pm
RE: Evolution V Creation - by garbishcan - January 14, 2013 at 1:36 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by garbishcan - January 14, 2013 at 8:19 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by KichigaiNeko - January 14, 2013 at 8:29 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Rhizomorph13 - January 14, 2013 at 10:56 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by KichigaiNeko - January 15, 2013 at 3:53 am
RE: Evolution V Creation - by Edwardo Piet - January 20, 2013 at 5:42 pm

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