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I see no way this could ever backfire!
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RE: I see no way this could ever backfire!
(November 12, 2013 at 11:11 am)Drich Wrote: IF the North Koreans are under threat of death for worship any other 'god' besides members of the Kim family, and we can all agree there is a need for 'change' Then how is change going to be possiable if not under the threat of death? These poor people live under a bastardized version of a theocracy, and have lived that way in one form or another since initial invasion of Japan in 1910.

This implies that you think that a single drop of bibles, made completely at random (they were drifted over on a balloon with a timer mechanism, remember) constitutes enough of a political upheaval that it's worth the risk of getting some citizens killed. Do you honestly think that revolutions are so easily accomplished?

Quote:Not to force you to think too much, but I will ask you anyways, How do you suppose that a people who have lived under emperial theocratic rule for the 100 years or so get to the point where they mandate change without putting their lives at risk.. Now before you give some hippy answer understand that if you object to the goverment control/deity of the great leader then your put into a forced labor camp just like the jews were in Nazi controled germany.

Real quick: name for me a single other revolution against an autocratic regime that was won solely through small amounts of literature dispersed at random by single, equally ideologically motivated groups on the outside.

Quote:So the problem remains if ALL avenues of free thought are forbiden, and these people only know life under a theocracy, ask yourself what is the best way to effect change in that country if China is backing the current leadership and wont allow anyone to say boo about them? Change if it happens will only happen from within. If it doesn't these poor brainwashed people will fight to defend their 'god' down to the last man woman and child, just like the japs were ready to do in WWII, and Like their grandparents did in the first Korean conflict.

Unsurprisingly, you've missed the point again: I agree with you that change needs to happen for the better there. Where we differ is that I don't need to leap to the defense of every stupid fucking thing that's done with a bible, and so I can see that not only is this action likely to be ineffective or dangerous, but that the motivation behind it was clear self aggrandizing, and not based on a sincere desire to help, because people tend to put more thought into these things it they actually want to help.

Quote:Unless they can identify their leader as a false God they will have no reason to even want change let alone embrace it when it happens. In the end no matter what happens unless things stay the same many many north Koreans will die. The only question is will they die looking to better themselves or will they die trying to defend their current beliefs?

Real quick, the second: you understand that the populace of North Korea has been brainwashed through endless propaganda to believe America is their sworn enemy, and hates them. What do you think they are likely to be thinking when an entirely contextless drop of hated American materials fall from the sky, with no additional material besides testimonies purporting to be from defectors? Do you honestly, actually think such a thing is going to be believed out of hand, by a group of people assailed from birth with news of how evil and terrible these things are?

Maybe you need to do more Thinking and less Worship (large)
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I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Esquilax - November 12, 2013 at 12:29 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by FallentoReason - November 12, 2013 at 12:57 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Minimalist - November 12, 2013 at 2:30 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Minimalist - November 12, 2013 at 11:21 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by The Valkyrie - November 12, 2013 at 1:08 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Cinjin - November 12, 2013 at 1:23 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 12, 2013 at 2:03 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Cinjin - November 12, 2013 at 2:04 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Esquilax - November 12, 2013 at 2:07 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 12, 2013 at 11:11 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Esquilax - November 12, 2013 at 7:30 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 13, 2013 at 11:53 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 13, 2013 at 12:12 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 13, 2013 at 2:28 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 13, 2013 at 2:40 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 13, 2013 at 3:00 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 13, 2013 at 3:06 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Bad Wolf - November 13, 2013 at 3:06 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Esquilax - November 13, 2013 at 7:26 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 13, 2013 at 8:07 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 14, 2013 at 3:59 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by The Valkyrie - November 12, 2013 at 2:19 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by max-greece - November 12, 2013 at 2:41 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Esquilax - November 12, 2013 at 2:28 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by KichigaiNeko - November 12, 2013 at 2:48 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by max-greece - November 12, 2013 at 11:32 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 12, 2013 at 11:43 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Ayen - November 12, 2013 at 11:33 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 12, 2013 at 12:47 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Ayen - November 12, 2013 at 1:14 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by max-greece - November 12, 2013 at 11:58 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 12, 2013 at 12:48 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 12, 2013 at 12:54 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by max-greece - November 12, 2013 at 1:25 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 12, 2013 at 1:35 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by max-greece - November 12, 2013 at 1:38 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Mister Agenda - November 12, 2013 at 1:59 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by pocaracas - November 12, 2013 at 12:13 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 12, 2013 at 12:37 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Minimalist - November 12, 2013 at 12:40 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 12, 2013 at 12:42 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Mister Agenda - November 12, 2013 at 12:47 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Mister Agenda - November 12, 2013 at 1:48 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Mister Agenda - November 13, 2013 at 5:11 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 12, 2013 at 12:59 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 12, 2013 at 1:01 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 12, 2013 at 1:49 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Faith No More - November 12, 2013 at 1:57 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 12, 2013 at 7:51 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by The Valkyrie - November 13, 2013 at 12:44 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Lemonvariable72 - November 13, 2013 at 12:20 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Bad Wolf - November 13, 2013 at 12:12 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Tonus - November 13, 2013 at 1:34 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 13, 2013 at 1:35 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by downbeatplumb - November 13, 2013 at 1:55 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 13, 2013 at 2:38 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Bob Kelso - November 13, 2013 at 2:46 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Bob Kelso - November 13, 2013 at 2:38 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 13, 2013 at 2:49 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Bob Kelso - November 13, 2013 at 2:58 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 13, 2013 at 3:45 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Bob Kelso - November 13, 2013 at 7:56 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Faith No More - November 14, 2013 at 8:42 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by tokutter - November 15, 2013 at 11:14 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by tokutter - November 13, 2013 at 2:45 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 13, 2013 at 2:59 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by tokutter - November 13, 2013 at 3:10 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by downbeatplumb - November 13, 2013 at 2:51 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by max-greece - November 13, 2013 at 2:58 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by downbeatplumb - November 13, 2013 at 2:59 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 13, 2013 at 5:17 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Mister Agenda - November 13, 2013 at 5:36 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 14, 2013 at 2:44 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 14, 2013 at 5:10 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 14, 2013 at 5:28 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 14, 2013 at 4:45 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 13, 2013 at 5:37 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 13, 2013 at 6:58 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by themonkeyman - November 14, 2013 at 5:49 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 14, 2013 at 5:48 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 15, 2013 at 11:49 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Lemonvariable72 - November 15, 2013 at 11:54 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by pocaracas - November 15, 2013 at 12:04 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Lemonvariable72 - November 15, 2013 at 12:50 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 15, 2013 at 1:35 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 16, 2013 at 3:14 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 15, 2013 at 2:18 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 15, 2013 at 4:07 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by downbeatplumb - November 15, 2013 at 3:28 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 15, 2013 at 3:49 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 14, 2013 at 6:21 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 15, 2013 at 1:25 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 15, 2013 at 4:37 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 16, 2013 at 3:12 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 16, 2013 at 1:43 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 17, 2013 at 2:59 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Angrboda - November 18, 2013 at 12:41 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 18, 2013 at 3:34 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Angrboda - November 19, 2013 at 3:26 am

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