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I see no way this could ever backfire!
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RE: I see no way this could ever backfire!
(November 13, 2013 at 5:17 pm)Chuck Wrote: Patriotism and love of freedom does not trump the knowledge of which side of your bread is buttered on. Soldiers in North Korea is amongst the most privileged classes besides high officialdom. Soldiers in a privileged position in a autocrasy don't tend to throw in with the revolutionaries except:


1. Their country have been heavily defeated in a war which their autocrat is not smart enough to end, so the soldiers revoluted to avoid becoming cannon fodder to a clearly lost cause

2. They were ordered to do so by their generals in a coup disguised as a revolution.

3. The revolutionaries have already come close to winning and the soldiers can see which way the wind is blowing.

To count on a previleged military to become a prime mover in a revolution to end the source of their privilege is folly.

The most likely way by which the Kim regime would end would be through a military coup. The leader of the coup is unlikely to be a liberal democrat at heart. What would most likely happen is North Korea would transition from pseudo-theocratic Kimsian hell to the purgatory of a military junta led banana republic, something like Berma before the recent half hearted thaw.

I think your missing the bigger picture. there a 20+ million people who live there. http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=na...ndYoq9Nta8


Without a doubt they have a strong army, and even if it repersented 25% of the total population 4 million soldiers would be a very formiable force for the west to have to deal with.

Even so that number pales in compareson to having a western coliotion force having to deal with another 20 million people. Right now the entire population at a moments notice is ready willing and able to martyr themselves for their 'god.' Just like the Japanese did in WWII Just like they did in the korean war.

It is one thing to have to fight a standing army, it is quite abit more to have to fight an entire nation's population, at the end of WWII we dropped 2 atom bombs to keep from having to deal with the citizen soldiers of Japan. We stale-mated with North Korea because we could not beat them and their chineese 'comrads' the first time around. They had 60 years to beef themselves back up, what makes you think we will be able to walk over them the second time around?

Or is it your belief that someone isn't going to have to do something about these guys sooner rather than later?

With that in mind. If we can get the people of North Korea to see their current 'god' as anything but then maybe so many of them will not be willing to die for him. This is where the bibles come in. With an absolute standard in which to measure a 'deity' the Kims all fall far short.

(November 13, 2013 at 5:34 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Drich I don't understand why you think him can't use the bible to give his regime devine mandate. There are have dozens of fake messiahs in privileged nations with free access to a bible. Also what's to stop him from claiming this as anti patriotic material and using it as a pretext

If everyone has a bible, then it is quite easy to see any mandate given by mr.kim to be evidence that he is a false 'god.'

I know you guys believe that anyone can use the bible to say anything, and they can to a degree if the people listening to him want to hear it. But, if the believer's goal is to know the God of the bible and worship Him then it becomes far too easy to see the fakers.
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I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Esquilax - November 12, 2013 at 12:29 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by FallentoReason - November 12, 2013 at 12:57 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Minimalist - November 12, 2013 at 2:30 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Minimalist - November 12, 2013 at 11:21 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by The Valkyrie - November 12, 2013 at 1:08 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Cinjin - November 12, 2013 at 1:23 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 12, 2013 at 2:03 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Cinjin - November 12, 2013 at 2:04 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Esquilax - November 12, 2013 at 2:07 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 12, 2013 at 11:11 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Esquilax - November 12, 2013 at 7:30 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 13, 2013 at 11:53 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 13, 2013 at 12:12 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 13, 2013 at 2:28 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 13, 2013 at 2:40 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 13, 2013 at 3:00 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 13, 2013 at 3:06 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Bad Wolf - November 13, 2013 at 3:06 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Esquilax - November 13, 2013 at 7:26 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 13, 2013 at 8:07 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 14, 2013 at 3:59 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by The Valkyrie - November 12, 2013 at 2:19 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by max-greece - November 12, 2013 at 2:41 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Esquilax - November 12, 2013 at 2:28 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by KichigaiNeko - November 12, 2013 at 2:48 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by max-greece - November 12, 2013 at 11:32 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 12, 2013 at 11:43 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Ayen - November 12, 2013 at 11:33 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 12, 2013 at 12:47 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Ayen - November 12, 2013 at 1:14 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by max-greece - November 12, 2013 at 11:58 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 12, 2013 at 12:48 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 12, 2013 at 12:54 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by max-greece - November 12, 2013 at 1:25 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 12, 2013 at 1:35 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by max-greece - November 12, 2013 at 1:38 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Mister Agenda - November 12, 2013 at 1:59 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by pocaracas - November 12, 2013 at 12:13 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 12, 2013 at 12:37 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Minimalist - November 12, 2013 at 12:40 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 12, 2013 at 12:42 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Mister Agenda - November 12, 2013 at 12:47 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Mister Agenda - November 12, 2013 at 1:48 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Mister Agenda - November 13, 2013 at 5:11 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 12, 2013 at 12:59 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 12, 2013 at 1:01 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 12, 2013 at 1:49 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Faith No More - November 12, 2013 at 1:57 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 12, 2013 at 7:51 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by The Valkyrie - November 13, 2013 at 12:44 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Lemonvariable72 - November 13, 2013 at 12:20 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Bad Wolf - November 13, 2013 at 12:12 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Tonus - November 13, 2013 at 1:34 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 13, 2013 at 1:35 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by downbeatplumb - November 13, 2013 at 1:55 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 13, 2013 at 2:38 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Bob Kelso - November 13, 2013 at 2:46 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Bob Kelso - November 13, 2013 at 2:38 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 13, 2013 at 2:49 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Bob Kelso - November 13, 2013 at 2:58 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 13, 2013 at 3:45 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Bob Kelso - November 13, 2013 at 7:56 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Faith No More - November 14, 2013 at 8:42 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by tokutter - November 15, 2013 at 11:14 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by tokutter - November 13, 2013 at 2:45 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 13, 2013 at 2:59 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by tokutter - November 13, 2013 at 3:10 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by downbeatplumb - November 13, 2013 at 2:51 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by max-greece - November 13, 2013 at 2:58 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by downbeatplumb - November 13, 2013 at 2:59 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 13, 2013 at 5:17 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Mister Agenda - November 13, 2013 at 5:36 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 14, 2013 at 2:44 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 14, 2013 at 5:10 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 14, 2013 at 5:28 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 14, 2013 at 4:45 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 13, 2013 at 5:37 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 13, 2013 at 6:58 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by themonkeyman - November 14, 2013 at 5:49 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 14, 2013 at 5:48 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 15, 2013 at 11:49 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Lemonvariable72 - November 15, 2013 at 11:54 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by pocaracas - November 15, 2013 at 12:04 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Lemonvariable72 - November 15, 2013 at 12:50 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 15, 2013 at 1:35 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 16, 2013 at 3:14 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 15, 2013 at 2:18 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 15, 2013 at 4:07 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by downbeatplumb - November 15, 2013 at 3:28 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 15, 2013 at 3:49 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 14, 2013 at 6:21 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 15, 2013 at 1:25 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 15, 2013 at 4:37 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 16, 2013 at 3:12 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 16, 2013 at 1:43 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 17, 2013 at 2:59 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Angrboda - November 18, 2013 at 12:41 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 18, 2013 at 3:34 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Angrboda - November 19, 2013 at 3:26 am

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