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I see no way this could ever backfire!
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RE: I see no way this could ever backfire!
(November 13, 2013 at 7:26 pm)Esquilax Wrote: You can think whatever you want, but until you provide evidence, as always, your opinions are moot.
North Korean Air space is restricted to comerical flights, and communist military flights. No low level flights (under 10K ft.) I doubt either one are droping bibles above 10K feet.

Quote:Yeah, begin that way. But I guarantee you that wasn't all that happened, and it's funny you completely ignore every other stage of the process. Besides, I was asking about a political change from an already oppressive regime, and you gave me something else entirely.
I did not say this is all we need do, but if we are going to win hearts and minds we need to start somewhere. This is a good place to start.

Quote:And the best way to do that is to show them another false god. Got it.
Clap finally!

Quote:Do you even have a method of dialling down on your smugness?
I not being smug. Just relaying what they think about how we live our lives.

Quote:And yet you seem to think they'll do it to be like their hated enemies, the Americans. Yep, seems totally logical. Thinking
They won't do it for America. They have been taught from birth to Serve God. They just have a messed up understanding of Who God is. If we can help take the need to serve God away from Kim and place that devotion where it needs to be, then we will not have to look down the barrels of 20 million N/K rifles when we have to go in and knock some sense into their current 'god'

Quote:Who said anything about english bibles?
Doubting Thomas around page 2

Quote:I'm saying that these people are bombarded with propaganda and paranoia day in and day out, told to distrust the outside world, told to hate anything forbidden, including christianity. And yet you think that a bible, entirely without context, and with an attached missive purporting to be from a literal traitor to their nation, is going to be received with an open mind. Why do you think that?
Because above all they are told, bred, and forced to worship God. They have a total devotion to God, they just don't know who He really is. If we can introduce them to the God of the bible then it will not be long for those who truly look to worship God to find Him.

Quote:Tell you what: you're a brainwashed drone, Drich, why don't you tell us your experience? If I were to throw a Koran at your head, would you pick it up, read it and convert, or would your years of indoctrination cause you to unthinkingly dismiss it?
It didn't take because it was all about locking one down to service and the method of worship that somehow pleased their god. there was no relationship, no contact with God (unless you are a phophet) just devotion to a method of worship which in of itself becomes it's own reward because of the status one gets from his peers. Being up held for your devoutness to a religion, is not giving yourself to God. It is using 'god' to make yourself great in the eyes of your peers. This is not God worship. This is worship of a given methodology/Legalism. This is the uninspired 'gentile' version of judaism.

Quote:Only when they're warranted, Drich. Only when they're warranted.
Fonzy said as he clears the first ramp.

(November 14, 2013 at 8:42 am)Faith No More Wrote:
(November 13, 2013 at 3:45 pm)Drich Wrote: Again the history of civilzation says otherwise. like it or not the worship or right to worship a given deity has spawned wars, revolutions and established countries...Thinking hmm If only there were some large nation/example in the west was established/embolden to through off their oppressors chains to worship the way they wanted too, so as to prove my point.

Oh, Drich, this is why people laugh at you. You're comparing a situation in which people were rich enough to sail halfway across the world and start a new life to avoid persecution with the poverty and oppression of North Korea.

I'm starting to think you should just have your foot surgically attached to your mouth to save you the trouble.
"rich enough." Big Grin

You do know that No 'rich people' settled in America right? At least not at first. They would have no reason to leave. No, the only people who came here were prisioners (forced laborers) and the 'worthy poor.' They were sent by the rich in most cases. The other group looking to settle are those who seek religious freedom, and freedom from the state.

Again do some research before you try and call me out. Don't believe your own hype that Christians are all stupid and are always wrong. I work at this a whole hellva lot harder than most of you do. i have to be square with scripture and all of my historical/social points. I at one point or another verify everything i speak on. The only time I get caught with my foot in my mouth is when i can not find my orginal source, that is why I have since consolidated to just three primary sources.

Not that I haven't made mistakes in the past or i won't make them in the future, just know that unless you have a verifiable source on something factual (especially history related) your probably wrong, just like you are here!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonial_hi...ted_States

(November 14, 2013 at 8:55 am)Optimistic Mysanthrope Wrote:
(November 13, 2013 at 3:45 pm)Drich Wrote: Again the history of civilzation says otherwise. like it or not the worship or right to worship a given deity has spawned wars, revolutions and established countries...Thinking hmm If only there were some large nation/example in the west was established/embolden to through off their oppressors chains to worship the way they wanted too, so as to prove my point.

It would help your case somewhat, wouldn't it? If you manage to come up with a suitable example, let me know. I know which one you're thinking of, but I assure you it doesn't meet the criteria

Then please explain how it does not meet 'the criteria.'
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I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Esquilax - November 12, 2013 at 12:29 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by FallentoReason - November 12, 2013 at 12:57 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Minimalist - November 12, 2013 at 2:30 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Minimalist - November 12, 2013 at 11:21 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by The Valkyrie - November 12, 2013 at 1:08 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Cinjin - November 12, 2013 at 1:23 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 12, 2013 at 2:03 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Cinjin - November 12, 2013 at 2:04 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Esquilax - November 12, 2013 at 2:07 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 12, 2013 at 11:11 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Esquilax - November 12, 2013 at 7:30 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 13, 2013 at 11:53 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 13, 2013 at 12:12 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 13, 2013 at 2:28 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 13, 2013 at 2:40 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 13, 2013 at 3:00 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 13, 2013 at 3:06 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Bad Wolf - November 13, 2013 at 3:06 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Esquilax - November 13, 2013 at 7:26 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 13, 2013 at 8:07 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 14, 2013 at 3:59 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by The Valkyrie - November 12, 2013 at 2:19 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by max-greece - November 12, 2013 at 2:41 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Esquilax - November 12, 2013 at 2:28 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by KichigaiNeko - November 12, 2013 at 2:48 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by max-greece - November 12, 2013 at 11:32 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 12, 2013 at 11:43 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Ayen - November 12, 2013 at 11:33 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 12, 2013 at 12:47 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Ayen - November 12, 2013 at 1:14 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by max-greece - November 12, 2013 at 11:58 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 12, 2013 at 12:48 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 12, 2013 at 12:54 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by max-greece - November 12, 2013 at 1:25 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 12, 2013 at 1:35 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by max-greece - November 12, 2013 at 1:38 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Mister Agenda - November 12, 2013 at 1:59 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by pocaracas - November 12, 2013 at 12:13 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 12, 2013 at 12:37 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Minimalist - November 12, 2013 at 12:40 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 12, 2013 at 12:42 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Mister Agenda - November 12, 2013 at 12:47 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Mister Agenda - November 12, 2013 at 1:48 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Mister Agenda - November 13, 2013 at 5:11 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 12, 2013 at 12:59 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 12, 2013 at 1:01 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 12, 2013 at 1:49 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Faith No More - November 12, 2013 at 1:57 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 12, 2013 at 7:51 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by The Valkyrie - November 13, 2013 at 12:44 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Lemonvariable72 - November 13, 2013 at 12:20 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Bad Wolf - November 13, 2013 at 12:12 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Tonus - November 13, 2013 at 1:34 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 13, 2013 at 1:35 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by downbeatplumb - November 13, 2013 at 1:55 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 13, 2013 at 2:38 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Bob Kelso - November 13, 2013 at 2:46 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Bob Kelso - November 13, 2013 at 2:38 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 13, 2013 at 2:49 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Bob Kelso - November 13, 2013 at 2:58 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 13, 2013 at 3:45 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Bob Kelso - November 13, 2013 at 7:56 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Faith No More - November 14, 2013 at 8:42 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by tokutter - November 15, 2013 at 11:14 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by tokutter - November 13, 2013 at 2:45 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 13, 2013 at 2:59 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by tokutter - November 13, 2013 at 3:10 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by downbeatplumb - November 13, 2013 at 2:51 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by max-greece - November 13, 2013 at 2:58 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by downbeatplumb - November 13, 2013 at 2:59 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 13, 2013 at 5:17 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Mister Agenda - November 13, 2013 at 5:36 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 14, 2013 at 2:44 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 14, 2013 at 5:10 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 14, 2013 at 5:28 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 14, 2013 at 4:45 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 13, 2013 at 5:37 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 13, 2013 at 6:58 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by themonkeyman - November 14, 2013 at 5:49 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 14, 2013 at 5:48 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 15, 2013 at 11:49 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Lemonvariable72 - November 15, 2013 at 11:54 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by pocaracas - November 15, 2013 at 12:04 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Lemonvariable72 - November 15, 2013 at 12:50 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 15, 2013 at 1:35 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 16, 2013 at 3:14 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 15, 2013 at 2:18 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 15, 2013 at 4:07 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by downbeatplumb - November 15, 2013 at 3:28 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 15, 2013 at 3:49 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 14, 2013 at 6:21 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 15, 2013 at 1:25 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 15, 2013 at 4:37 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 16, 2013 at 3:12 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Anomalocaris - November 16, 2013 at 1:43 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 17, 2013 at 2:59 pm
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Angrboda - November 18, 2013 at 12:41 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Drich - November 18, 2013 at 3:34 am
RE: I see no way this could ever backfire! - by Angrboda - November 19, 2013 at 3:26 am

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