RE: Strong Atheism starts from faith
February 9, 2010 at 6:49 pm
(This post was last modified: February 9, 2010 at 7:08 pm by fr0d0.)
(February 9, 2010 at 6:10 pm)theVOID Wrote:Quote:You're talking about a fantasy god that doesn't feature in any religion VOID. That's nice and naive, but this is the rational world where we consider rational notions. Yours is no where near a rational notion.
I'm sorry, where in your religious texts does it state that there is and cannot ever be a way to verify the existence of God?
Exodus 33:20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.
Exodus 33:23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.
It's all over the bible. Show me one place where it says God is verifiable
(February 9, 2010 at 6:10 pm)theVOID Wrote:Quote:In the real world, with real understanding, we know that God cannot be verified.
I'm not interested in you asserting that God cannot be verified, i want to know why you hold that position. Where is your reasoning?
It's not me that's asserting it... it's the basic precept of every religion. You apparently don't get this.
Look at the reasoning.. why need faith; how, given omnimax attributes could this entity also be verifiable? If you can make that work your whacko beyond my estimation.
(February 9, 2010 at 6:10 pm)theVOID Wrote:Quote:Additionally you propose a god we don't know yet. This isn't anything any theist here is talking about either. Yes there are infinite possibilities of anything yet unknown to us existing. The Christian God isn't one of these.
Assuming there is evidence for the existence of God, do you still not need faith in his actions? Do you not need faith to believe that this Omni-benevolent does not prevent natural disasters because they are a necessary evil? Do you not need faith to believe he has a good reason for giving children cancer so they spend their short lives suffering in and out of hospitals?
No I'm not entering your psychotic world. This is your child like reasoning yes. For me it's just purile.