(November 25, 2013 at 11:06 am)Drich Wrote: Then by all means tell me what you think a 'true believer' is. Because it seems as if your confusing a 'true believer' with a sincere believer.
Greasy semantics sir. No difference where this argument is concerned. If you look up the word sincere in a thesaurus you will find the word true.
Quote:This statement is why I think you have confused the terms. A 'True believer' is not a title we give ourselves. It is awarded to those in whom Christ welcomes into Heaven. A Sincere believer is someone who truly believes that they believe or did at one time believed. Christ in Mt. 7 says not all who believe this will be welcomed into Heaven. On that day He will say "Away with you evil doer I never knew you."
Which means not all who 'believe they believe' Truly to according to Christ.
This is just sophistry. You're desperately trying to explain away why so many people don't feel this unfathomable inner peace. These preachers/parishioners who have left the faith were not non-believers. By their own testimony, they were legitimate in every sense of the word and YOU have the nerve to simply write them off so that your primitive scribblings remain "true."
Quote:If this was my 'same old arguement' then you would think by now you would know the difference between those who Christ deems 'followers' and those who claim the title for themselves.
Well, to play by your rules than, I don't think for a moment that you're a legitimate follower of Christ. Many of the things you say are anti-Biblical and I know many fundamentalists who would disagree with you. You may be sincere but you are definitely NOT a True Christian™, and since Jesus is the only one that can supposedly bestow this honor, I'm afraid you wont be finding out if you're going to heaven until it's too late to change. Do you think that's fair of me to say?
Drich Wrote:Cinjin Wrote:Of course, it's problematic for you because it happens all the time.Again not in the least as Christ Himself points out there are those who think they believe, and do all sorts of things in His name that never know God.
This greasy rhetoric does not change the fact that YOU are not the decider of who is and who is not a True Christian™ and even if you were correct about the occasional EX-believer, you sure as hell couldn't make this argument for the hundreds of thousands that never feel the kind of peace that your holy Babble promises.