RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
November 30, 2013 at 9:06 pm
(This post was last modified: November 30, 2013 at 9:15 pm by Lemonvariable72.)
(November 30, 2013 at 2:28 pm)Sleepy Wrote: Liberal/homosexuality ideology is going to crumble and be destroyed based on its own ideas
They're always be going to be unnatural, repulsive and sick creatures if they stick to their ways.
If they choose to stop those activities and repent for their sins than that's fine
Actually sleepy you have me thinking, what if it is not homosexuality that is unnatural, but instead your religion. We have scientific evidence (link, http://www.sciencemag.org/content/261/5119/321.abstract) that homosexuality is passed on the x chromosome inherited from the female. Along with that we have observations of widespread homosexuality in the animal kingdom, and in premonotheism cultures. however the theist seems to take one of two ways to usurp what is "natural".
1. They claim that god created us. This is demonstrably false in several ways. First is that the idea of the human race coming from two individuals, in a garden in the middle east. First objection that come to mind here is genetic diseases and how this can't effectively account for diversity among humans because if we all came from the same people in the place so recently then the rate of mutation ( which is observable) is far too slow to account for the diversity we see.
My second objection to this the fact that it has been proven that the mother population of humans is in east Africa, not the middle east. We know this because we can study the DNA of people and found that two neighbors in east Africa have more diversity in there genetics then a north American and a Asian. Not to mention most human ancestor fossils are found in the great rift valley. The Tigris isn't even close, nor is the Euphrates.
2. Is the theists try to claim the fall of man made nature evil ( and man evil) This falls short. The reason is because we now know there was no Adam and eve, evolution acts on populations not individuals, and is a gradient not a sudden change. Now if we accept this, as I did as a christian, the creation story must then be interpreted as a allegory. This falls apart under scrutiny because there is no agreed upon way of interpreting it. If there was no garden then there where was the fruit? If the fruit is a allegory then what could it symbolize? (many things of course) If nature had no evil before the allegorical man ate the allegorical fruit then did animals eat each each other? If yes then why did a perfect being create a system of life that requires death. If no then how do you explain the past evolution? You now see my point.
The problem is quite basic, religion, when faced with scrutiny falls apart and then has to be built up again with ad-hoc after ad-hoc, as apologetics (both muslim and christian does). Science on the other hand is built on intense scrutiny, and when it is wrong it admits it and change accordingly.
So therefore science rules over religion.
Also I wish address you claim sleepy that all children are born muslim, for this assertion makes prediction. If we were to take a young child of 4 that was born to nonrelgious parent and never exposed to religion would have some inborn knowledge of islam. If that was the case wouldn't young girls from non muslim backgrounds start wearing hijabs? would they not reject the morality they are born into as incorrect and gravitiate towards a islam like code instead? Your assertion says we would see this en masse, not in isolated cases. On the other hand with homosexuals, many claim to have feelings for people of the same gender since they were very young. In fact the peer reveiw journal science posted a article saying it may begin in the womb.
http://news.sciencemag.org/evolution/201...start-womb
Now back on point we must conclude it is religion that is unnatural and not homosexuality, because religion fails on so many and is so contradictory to what we see it is therefore untrue. Where science is demonstrably true and when proven false seeks correction. And one, via scientific can conclude that homosexuality is natural, in almost all cases ( those where it is unnatural are often results of sexual abuse, again that is scientifically proven)
Some more links to back my points
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007...008-9449-3
http://weber.ucsd.edu/~dkjordan/resource...alEve.html
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/341/6145/562
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Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
