(December 9, 2013 at 1:25 am)whateverist Wrote: Well good on us both. Funny how much more there is to talk about when we disagree than when we agree, isn't it? Shall we further test our common ground?
What about an afterlife?
I'm not against it mind you. But I feel much more certain that that isn't in the cards than I do that gods (in some shape or form) don't exist. I suspect all the eternity we'll ever know is the kind that comes in 'timeless nows'. Eternity doesn't have to be measured as an extent of time I don't think. And even if some gods were eternal in the expanse-of-time sense, it wouldn't mean we can or will be joining them in that.
Do you have any settled opinion about that?
my views on afterlife are very Christian (as I myself am Christian). the only thing that's a little more unusual concerning my belief in afterlife is my view on hell. I do not believe hell is literal fire and brimstone, but actually more of a place of self torment due to shame.
as far as eternity goes in respect to God, I think in the beginning was timeless, or without time and when he created time became an active part of time. so that would make him without beginning but not infinitely old in the past since the past itself is limited. but it would also make the number of years ahead of him infinitely great, which is what I also believe of the afterlife.
I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with senses, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use and by some other means to give us knowledge which we can attain by them.
-Galileo
-Galileo
