RE: Evolution V Creation
February 14, 2010 at 10:27 am
(This post was last modified: February 14, 2010 at 10:33 am by rjh4 is back.)
(February 13, 2010 at 11:06 am)Tiberius Wrote: No, you just have a problem with inferring speciation and change on humanity, which unfortunately is how nature works. You just deny reality.
Actually, I think the only thing I have denied here is common descent. Humans clearly change...a huge variety of differences are built into our DNA just like a huge variety of differences are built into the DNA of birds, snakes, dogs, cats, etc. That kind of change is evident in the article provided my Min relative to birds and we can see the same sorts of changes in humans. I do not deny this. I think you should remember though, Adrian, relative to speciation, it is man that decides what is a new species, there is no transcendant objective standard. So just like a scientist could look at the slight differences in those birds and decide they are all different species, a scientist could look at the slight differences in humans and conclude there are different species of humans. As for me, I would just say that there are birds that differ from each other and there are humans that differ from each other.
Still none of these changes (whether or not one calls it speciation or not) necessitate a conclusion of descent of all life from a single common anscestor.
Adrian, I also have a question for you that you probably missed in another thread:
Please provide the evidence that leads you to be able to distinguish between:
1) All life has a single common descendant.
2) Some of life has one common descendant and some of life has a different common descendant.
In other words, a single common descendant compared to two common descendants.
Since you say that the evidence only supports 1) but not 2), I want to know what that evidence is.
(February 13, 2010 at 10:04 pm)Zen Badger Wrote: I was asking how you arrived at the conclusion that logic etc does not fit into my world view.
I explained that in my post relative to your stated presuppositions (post #99). If you would like to elaborate on how your presuppositions account for logic, mathematics, and morals, I would be interest in reading.
(February 13, 2010 at 10:04 pm)Zen Badger Wrote: So again I ask you, where is your evidence for a young earth?
See post #72 in this thread. I think you just don't like my answer.