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Who here is a feminist?
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RE: Who here is a feminist?
(December 12, 2013 at 5:06 pm)Kiko Wrote: Who is a feminist, and could you give an overview of your beliefs.

Feminism means a lot of things.

In the 'genders should have the same rights' department, I'm all for gender equality. But a lot of feminism is really misandry. I'm not for the whole 'genders are identical' philosophy that some feminists adhere to, cause we aren't.

(December 13, 2013 at 1:45 pm)TaraJo Wrote:
(December 13, 2013 at 1:09 pm)Kiko Wrote: Ok, so you "guess" that men decided one day to just put themselves in power. I see. What led you to this epiphany? Feminism is based on the concept of there being a nasty, evil patriarchy, and yet all you can do is guess. Ok, fair enough, I suppose a guess is as good as knowing. I guess E=MC2, I guess the earth revolves around the sun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

Yes, it's an educated guess. Truth is, when you go back that far, you're forced to make a lot of guess work. And I'm not even especially well studied on this idea. You want someone who can answer your question with certainty? Good luck; you ain't gonna find it.

Quote: So, tell me more. How did the patriarchy develop? In which part of the world did it start? Or was it everywhere? Did it all happen at the same time, or over a period of time? Was it planned or did it just happen spontaneously, like a surprise party? Was there initial resistance to this coup? Please, expand on your guess. Was there a meeting? Or did all the men involved just instinctively know what to do? Were any women involved at all, or was it strictly a men's club? Did women not at least make the tea at meetings? Were there any female honorary members?

I'll answer your question when you answer mine: when did other primates, especially the one humans evolved from, develop patriarchial social standards? Because the answer for both is probably the same: those were just behavioral patterns we carried over from our primate ancestors.

Compared to humans, the ape-brain leaves little room for neocortical thought and higher brain function, though they have complex emotional brains like us. The amygdala is the root of instinct, and instinctually, in a less stable social environment, where clans exist and the concepts of law and socially acceptable behavior are practically non-existent, the strongest become leaders and the physically weaker organisms in the species will look for protection. The more dominant males will protect while the less dominant females will reproduce to further the clan. It's coexistence at its simplest form. Rudimentary primate societies are usually just like that; males protect and find food for the young while the females give birth and nurture the young.

Humans have the same instincts, when all's said and done. Should there ever come a time where law in society breaks down or where society becomes more loosely restrained, that's what we'll revert to in all probability.

You mightn't like it, but the same instincts are wired into you, on a powerful level. The stay at home mum and working dad might seem a cliche, but instincutally, it's actually the way humans are most comfortable. Cortical function just lets us pretend for a moment that we aren't that way, and we make up elaborate ways not to be. Which is our right, of course. But get rid of stigma and our current social constructs and at our roots, that's still what we are.
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Who here is a feminist? - by Kiko - December 12, 2013 at 5:06 pm
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by Doubting Thomas - December 12, 2013 at 6:09 pm
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by TaraJo - December 12, 2013 at 6:20 pm
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by Kiko - December 12, 2013 at 7:03 pm
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by TaraJo - December 12, 2013 at 7:11 pm
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by Kiko - December 12, 2013 at 7:23 pm
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by TaraJo - December 12, 2013 at 7:27 pm
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by Kiko - December 13, 2013 at 5:55 am
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by TaraJo - December 13, 2013 at 6:08 am
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by Kiko - December 13, 2013 at 6:28 am
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by TaraJo - December 13, 2013 at 6:38 am
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by Kiko - December 13, 2013 at 7:09 am
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by Napoléon - December 13, 2013 at 7:55 am
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by LastPoet - December 13, 2013 at 6:45 am
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by TaraJo - December 13, 2013 at 6:47 am
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by CapnAwesome - December 12, 2013 at 7:13 pm
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by Kiko - December 12, 2013 at 7:33 pm
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by TaraJo - December 12, 2013 at 9:24 pm
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by Fruity - December 13, 2013 at 11:18 am
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by theyear12013 - December 16, 2013 at 3:51 am
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by Lemonvariable72 - December 16, 2013 at 12:25 pm
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by theyear12013 - December 16, 2013 at 1:54 pm
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by Lemonvariable72 - December 17, 2013 at 12:57 pm
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by Kayenneh - December 12, 2013 at 6:22 pm
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by CapnAwesome - December 12, 2013 at 7:02 pm
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by LastPoet - December 13, 2013 at 6:11 am
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by pineapplebunnybounce - December 13, 2013 at 6:31 am
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by Kayenneh - December 13, 2013 at 8:24 am
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by TaraJo - December 13, 2013 at 8:35 am
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by Kiko - December 13, 2013 at 10:05 am
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by Napoléon - December 13, 2013 at 10:16 am
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by Kiko - December 13, 2013 at 10:19 am
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by TaraJo - December 13, 2013 at 10:36 am
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by Kiko - December 13, 2013 at 1:09 pm
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by TaraJo - December 13, 2013 at 1:45 pm
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by Napoléon - December 13, 2013 at 10:25 am
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by c172 - December 13, 2013 at 12:11 pm
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by The Valkyrie - December 13, 2013 at 2:02 pm
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by kılıç_mehmet - December 15, 2013 at 2:33 pm
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by EgoRaptor - December 15, 2013 at 10:56 pm
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by Rev. Rye - December 16, 2013 at 12:06 am
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by TaraJo - December 16, 2013 at 12:08 am
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by Lemonvariable72 - December 16, 2013 at 12:43 am
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by Medi - December 16, 2013 at 1:11 am
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by pocaracas - December 17, 2013 at 1:09 pm
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by Violet - December 18, 2013 at 5:07 am
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by Medi - December 22, 2013 at 8:33 am
RE: Who here is a feminist? - by Violet - December 22, 2013 at 2:41 pm

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