You're funny. 
So! No, doesn't follow, and, what's a "god?"
Suppose you have a sphere, where the south pole is defined as singularity. Now picture time moving forward, and particles propagating from singularity outwards along the surface of the sphere. We stand south of the equator observing the physical universe. Now imagine the north pole being a single photon in a universe where every single photon is beyond the light horizon of every other photon. Spin the sphere to reverse the poles and repeat - ad infinitum. Which is my take on Penrose's cyclic universe, a model I like to think of when I think of these things.
Which makes god a universe where every single photon is beyond the light horizon of every other photon, is that what you mean?
There's all kinds of problems, here, the most basic being, well, being human. We are evolved to simulate future and process entropy as linear time - these things may not be real. Accurately describing the canvas on which the universe is painted may be equivalent to the tree-climbing fish-thing.
BBT is a model, it is not an event that has antecedents, it is a causal reversal of thermodynamical processes. To speculate on what happened before or what caused it is similar to me asking you what you had for breakfast on May 13, 1762. Such is beyond your chain of causality, and chains of causality are how we derive such models.
(September 26, 2013 at 8:02 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: If actual, discrete infinites can exist in our world, then our universe can exist eternally, and does not need God to create it.
So! No, doesn't follow, and, what's a "god?"
Suppose you have a sphere, where the south pole is defined as singularity. Now picture time moving forward, and particles propagating from singularity outwards along the surface of the sphere. We stand south of the equator observing the physical universe. Now imagine the north pole being a single photon in a universe where every single photon is beyond the light horizon of every other photon. Spin the sphere to reverse the poles and repeat - ad infinitum. Which is my take on Penrose's cyclic universe, a model I like to think of when I think of these things.
Which makes god a universe where every single photon is beyond the light horizon of every other photon, is that what you mean?
There's all kinds of problems, here, the most basic being, well, being human. We are evolved to simulate future and process entropy as linear time - these things may not be real. Accurately describing the canvas on which the universe is painted may be equivalent to the tree-climbing fish-thing.
BBT is a model, it is not an event that has antecedents, it is a causal reversal of thermodynamical processes. To speculate on what happened before or what caused it is similar to me asking you what you had for breakfast on May 13, 1762. Such is beyond your chain of causality, and chains of causality are how we derive such models.
