(February 23, 2010 at 1:02 pm)objectivitees Wrote: Really?? Then how did everything get here? Come on, give me a supernatural explanation that doesn't invoke the ontological definition of God.Hello Argument from personal incredulity... Goodbye Argument from personal incredulity...
objectivitees Wrote:Actually, most don't presuppose them, but only because they are not aware of them. My claim is not what an individual Atheist may or may not know with respect to the presuppositions, but what Atheism itself presupposes. No confusion here. If an Atheist thinks the belief God does not exist (or the "lack" of belief) has no bearing on the issues of Morality (ethic), Epistemology (theory of knowledge) and Metaphysics (the nature of reality) then he is ignorant, or intentionally distorting the problem to avoid rational debate.When dealing with extraordinary claims that fail to meet up to their requirement for extraordinary evidence, the default position is always disbelief, not belief. If you're standards of evidence are so appallingly low, you'll end up believing all kinds of nonsense with no justification or reason for it.
Your "lack of belief" claim is standard fare, and a dishonest attempt to avoid having the discussion.
What if I were to say to you that the entire universe, reality itself, is nothing but the dream of the Invisible Pink Unicorn? Would you honestly allow that huge claim to pass through your evidence filter without proper investigation and rational discussion first?
Would you immediately accept the idea we're all part of her pinkness' subconscious, just like that?