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Demons?
RE: Demons?
(January 18, 2014 at 12:20 am)Esquilax Wrote: How do you intend to categorically exclude the possibility of spacefaring life? I mean, you did just say this is scientifically provable.

Life could originate in space and plant itself on suitable planets for all we know, that's called panspermia. We don't actually know but certainly from what we can see complex life requires a stable environment, an energy source and billions of years. These conditions can only exist in a universe that is identical to this, you can't change something and it will still work.


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More assertions with nothing backing them up.

Everything we know about the universe through science backs these point up. For instance matter only exists because there was a slight imbalance between matter and anti-matter at the moment the universe came into existence. Had the balance been exactly even both matter and ant-matter would have annihilated each other and no physical matter would exist. You also need matter that forms itself into a stable form and structure, mess around with the speed of the universes expansion or the law of gravity and this wouldn't happen. These aren't assertions this just what we know, this is how the universe is. Certainly had it been different and life not exist we wouldn't be here to notice it that is a small point, this is therefore the only universe living beings will ever notice they exist within. But that doesn't mean the natural balance required for life isn't a very precise knife edge balance. You have life one way and no other.


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You haven't demonstrated a single damn thing.


I've explained how the universe actually is in reality, it's an observation. You don't need to demonstrate what you can see and what is already known.


Quote:Yes actually, it does: power without limit means that he could do literally anything.

If there is only one way to create a universe with free living beings in it then you can't make it any other way and still have free living beings in it. That's nothing to do with God not being omnipotent just what he would need to create in order to attain whatever outcome he specifically had in mind.

Quote:If you can present him with a subject in which he cannot do some things, that means that he's limited in what he can do. That's just definitionally true.

If there is one way to do something specifically then that's the way you have to do it. If God wanted to build a plastic plane he will use plastic planes parts, if he wants to build a plastic tank he would use plastic tank parts. There are certain materials you need and a certain way of assembling the materials.
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Demons? - by Nine - January 8, 2014 at 12:11 pm
RE: Demons? - by Wunsbee - January 8, 2014 at 12:14 pm
RE: Demons? - by Nine - January 8, 2014 at 12:33 pm
RE: Demons? - by Wunsbee - January 8, 2014 at 12:42 pm
RE: Demons? - by Tonus - February 11, 2014 at 12:54 pm
RE: Demons? - by c172 - January 8, 2014 at 12:15 pm
RE: Demons? - by NoraBrimstone - January 8, 2014 at 7:45 pm
RE: Demons? - by ShaMan - January 8, 2014 at 7:50 pm
RE: Demons? - by ElleBelle - January 8, 2014 at 8:44 pm
RE: Demons? - by Minimalist - January 8, 2014 at 8:46 pm
RE: Demons? - by Polaris - January 8, 2014 at 8:48 pm
RE: Demons? - by Chad32 - January 8, 2014 at 8:54 pm
RE: Demons? - by Sinnersburninhell100 - January 8, 2014 at 9:09 pm
RE: Demons? - by Jackalope - January 8, 2014 at 9:20 pm
RE: Demons? - by truthBtold - January 8, 2014 at 9:11 pm
RE: Demons? - by truthBtold - January 8, 2014 at 9:14 pm
RE: Demons? - by Napoléon - January 8, 2014 at 9:20 pm
RE: Demons? - by truthBtold - January 8, 2014 at 9:29 pm
RE: Demons? - by Napoléon - January 9, 2014 at 12:32 pm
RE: Demons? - by Sinnersburninhell100 - January 8, 2014 at 9:43 pm
RE: Demons? - by Esquilax - January 9, 2014 at 12:31 am
RE: Demons? - by Chad32 - January 8, 2014 at 9:13 pm
RE: Demons? - by Angrboda - January 8, 2014 at 9:23 pm
RE: Demons? - by truthBtold - January 8, 2014 at 9:33 pm
RE: Demons? - by Jackalope - January 8, 2014 at 9:26 pm
RE: Demons? - by Angrboda - January 8, 2014 at 9:33 pm
RE: Demons? - by Jackalope - January 8, 2014 at 9:36 pm
RE: Demons? - by truthBtold - January 8, 2014 at 9:56 pm
Re: RE: Demons? - by NoraBrimstone - January 9, 2014 at 6:21 am
RE: Demons? - by Sinnersburninhell100 - January 9, 2014 at 2:50 pm
RE: Demons? - by Fruity - January 9, 2014 at 3:30 pm
RE: Demons? - by Angrboda - January 9, 2014 at 5:08 pm
RE: Demons? - by Fruity - January 9, 2014 at 5:45 pm
RE: Demons? - by Esquilax - January 10, 2014 at 6:30 am
RE: Demons? - by Crossless1 - January 10, 2014 at 12:11 pm
RE: Demons? - by Fruity - January 9, 2014 at 12:29 pm
RE: Demons? - by Crossless1 - January 9, 2014 at 5:08 pm
RE: Demons? - by JuliaL - January 9, 2014 at 1:57 pm
RE: Demons? - by Sinnersburninhell100 - January 9, 2014 at 7:08 pm
RE: Demons? - by Chad32 - January 9, 2014 at 7:17 pm
RE: Demons? - by Sinnersburninhell100 - January 9, 2014 at 9:05 pm
RE: Demons? - by Fidel_Castronaut - January 9, 2014 at 10:50 pm
RE: Demons? - by Esquilax - January 10, 2014 at 2:44 am
RE: Demons? - by Fruity - January 10, 2014 at 3:29 am
RE: Demons? - by Chad32 - January 9, 2014 at 9:11 pm
RE: Demons? - by Michelle_Patton - January 9, 2014 at 10:40 pm
RE: Demons? - by Lemonvariable72 - January 10, 2014 at 2:48 am
Re: RE: Demons? - by NoraBrimstone - January 10, 2014 at 6:05 am
RE: Demons? - by Godschild - January 11, 2014 at 12:43 am
RE: Demons? - by Chad32 - January 11, 2014 at 12:49 am
RE: Demons? - by Lemonvariable72 - January 11, 2014 at 1:10 am
RE: Demons? - by Angrboda - January 11, 2014 at 1:30 am
RE: Demons? - by Lemonvariable72 - January 11, 2014 at 1:34 am
RE: Demons? - by Angrboda - January 11, 2014 at 1:41 am
RE: Demons? - by Lemonvariable72 - January 11, 2014 at 1:50 am
RE: Demons? - by Godschild - January 14, 2014 at 3:03 pm
RE: Demons? - by Lemonvariable72 - January 14, 2014 at 6:25 pm
RE: Demons? - by downbeatplumb - January 11, 2014 at 11:38 am
RE: Demons? - by Chad32 - January 11, 2014 at 10:02 am
RE: Demons? - by Minimalist - January 11, 2014 at 11:43 am
RE: Demons? - by Sinnersburninhell100 - January 13, 2014 at 1:01 am
RE: Demons? - by Lemonvariable72 - January 13, 2014 at 1:04 am
RE: Demons? - by Chad32 - January 11, 2014 at 11:52 am
RE: Demons? - by truthBtold - January 11, 2014 at 12:35 pm
RE: Demons? - by Chad32 - January 14, 2014 at 3:17 pm
RE: Demons? - by Godschild - January 14, 2014 at 6:08 pm
RE: Demons? - by ShaMan - January 14, 2014 at 3:52 pm
RE: Demons? - by Angrboda - January 14, 2014 at 3:58 pm
RE: Demons? - by Chad32 - January 14, 2014 at 6:17 pm
RE: Demons? - by Godschild - January 14, 2014 at 6:27 pm
RE: Demons? - by The Valkyrie - January 14, 2014 at 8:54 pm
RE: Demons? - by Avodaiah - January 14, 2014 at 9:10 pm
RE: Demons? - by The Valkyrie - January 14, 2014 at 7:03 pm
RE: Demons? - by Godschild - January 14, 2014 at 7:22 pm
RE: Demons? - by ShaMan - January 14, 2014 at 7:25 pm
RE: Demons? - by Godschild - January 15, 2014 at 8:00 am
RE: Demons? - by The Valkyrie - January 14, 2014 at 9:25 pm
RE: Demons? - by Chad32 - January 14, 2014 at 7:32 pm
RE: Demons? - by Chad32 - January 14, 2014 at 8:58 pm
RE: Demons? - by EgoRaptor - January 14, 2014 at 9:08 pm
RE: Demons? - by Chad32 - January 14, 2014 at 9:15 pm
RE: Demons? - by Avodaiah - January 14, 2014 at 9:24 pm
RE: Demons? - by Chad32 - January 14, 2014 at 9:33 pm
RE: Demons? - by Angrboda - January 15, 2014 at 1:04 am
RE: Demons? - by Avodaiah - January 15, 2014 at 4:28 pm
RE: Demons? - by Angrboda - January 15, 2014 at 8:06 pm
RE: Demons? - by Avodaiah - January 15, 2014 at 9:52 pm
RE: Demons? - by Mister Agenda - January 16, 2014 at 3:10 pm
RE: Demons? - by Minimalist - January 14, 2014 at 9:50 pm
RE: Demons? - by Chad32 - January 15, 2014 at 10:09 am
RE: Demons? - by Mister Agenda - January 15, 2014 at 10:31 am
RE: Demons? - by Chad32 - January 15, 2014 at 4:35 pm
RE: Demons? - by Sword of Christ - January 15, 2014 at 5:12 pm
RE: Demons? - by Chad32 - January 15, 2014 at 8:22 pm
RE: Demons? - by Chad32 - January 15, 2014 at 9:58 pm
RE: Demons? - by Avodaiah - January 15, 2014 at 10:05 pm
RE: Demons? - by Angrboda - January 16, 2014 at 12:00 am
RE: Demons? - by Sword of Christ - January 17, 2014 at 5:17 am
RE: Demons? - by Esquilax - January 17, 2014 at 5:34 am
RE: Demons? - by Sword of Christ - January 17, 2014 at 9:05 am
RE: Demons? - by Esquilax - January 17, 2014 at 9:32 am
RE: Demons? - by Sword of Christ - January 17, 2014 at 10:21 am
RE: Demons? - by Esquilax - January 17, 2014 at 10:40 am
RE: Demons? - by Sword of Christ - January 17, 2014 at 3:19 pm
RE: Demons? - by Esquilax - January 18, 2014 at 12:20 am
RE: Demons? - by Sword of Christ - January 18, 2014 at 3:10 pm
RE: Demons? - by Esquilax - January 18, 2014 at 11:38 pm
RE: Demons? - by Chad32 - January 17, 2014 at 10:18 am
RE: Demons? - by Angrboda - January 18, 2014 at 6:04 pm
RE: Demons? - by Rev. Rye - January 18, 2014 at 11:49 pm
RE: Demons? - by Minimalist - January 19, 2014 at 12:03 am
RE: Demons? - by JuliaL - February 11, 2014 at 12:44 pm

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