(February 17, 2014 at 11:00 pm)Revelation777 Wrote:(February 16, 2014 at 11:11 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Evolution is a fact. The Theory of Evolution is a theory. The one describes the other; they are not interchangeable.
Similarly, the Theory of Gravity describes the fact of gravitational attraction.
Good, then you can define the classification "kind" for us.
Yep; that's evolution.
How about a reptile evolving into a bird?
How convenient for you. The creator exists because the creation proves the creator exists. Now demonstrate that this creator is "God".
Reptiles evolved into birds, really? Based on what? If so why did some evolve and some didn't? Wouldn't of all reptiles of ceased to exist and there be just more birds? Who decides they stay a lizard and another will be a bird?
The Word of God attests that in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Please explain to me how gasses came from nothingness.
Nobody's claiming that anything came from "nothing". Read some cosmology. All that's "known" is that 13.7 billion years ago the universe went from being very very small to considerably larger very quickly indeed and it's been getting bigger ever since.
As for where the initial Very Small Universe came from, or what was here BEFORE the universe expanded, not only do we NOT know, it's possible we'll NEVER know. Indeed the whole question of what was here before the Big Bang may be meaningless as many astrophysicists are now of the opinion that the Big Bang was the moment time itself STARTED.
So we don't know whether something came from nothing, or indeed IF something could come from nothing (Laurence Krauss has a theory as to how this might come about, but it requires a slightly idiosyncratic notion of "nothing"). And maybe we never will.
But YOU DON'T KNOW EITHER.
And the difference is, we're not going to just Make Something Up (or latch onto something someone ELSE has made up) and arbitrarily declare it to be The Truth just because it makes us feel good.
Because the other point is this: even if you could justify the claim that God Did It, you STILL haven't actually explained anything. Because now you have to explain GOD.
Where did HE come from? Who created him? Is he eternal and uncreated? In which case how does he exist? Does he inhabit a realm beyond our universe? In which case, where is it? What mechanism did he use to create the universe? If he's non-physical, by what process does he affect the physical universe?
Unless you can explain God, you can't use God to "explain" anything. Your answer is still "I don't know", same as ours, except it PRETENDS to be an explanation. But it's not.
You can't explain the unexplained by recourse to the inexplicable.