Order vs. Randomness

[Rayaan]

"The Tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao."

Chapter one, verse one, line one of the Tao Te Ching by Lao Tzu.

And that has nothing to do with the Taoist conception of the existence of underlying patterns in nature, nor does it refute the quotes that I posted.

You were tasked with providing two citations. You only provided one, from a book for idiots.

And that's a lie. I did provide two: One from the "The Complete Idiots Guide to Taoism" and another one from Wikipedia.

I challenge you to a formal debate with one necessary condition:

The question: Is there good reason to believe the existence of the universe requires a supernatural creator?

The condition: You give up your staff privileges for the duration of the debate. You've already shown with Jacob smooth that you can't be trusted to behave ethically with regard to your administrator privileges when it comes to members' private information. You received the typical slap on the wrist for your lack of judgement. Spare the rod spoil the child. If this is going to be a fair fight, you must return to normal member status for the duration of it.

I await your reply.

Nice try, but no ... I'll have a formal debate whenever I want to and about whatever topic that I wish, but you can't push me into anything.

"Is there good reason to believe the existence of the universe requires a supernatural creator?"

^ You mean, you're challenging me to debate that topic with another theist? LOL.

And I don't have to give up staff privileges just to have a formal debate.