RE: Q: do you, Christian, claim that God exists, rather than you believe that he exists?
February 26, 2014 at 1:15 pm
(This post was last modified: February 26, 2014 at 1:17 pm by fr0d0.)
(February 26, 2014 at 4:45 am)whateverist Wrote:(February 26, 2014 at 3:51 am)fr0d0 Wrote: You would believe it understanding the same evidence. The only difference is understanding.
If it has anything to do with the bible I'm quite sure I would not. I've never found a compelling reason to think that book had anything to do with God even when I was young enough to still believe.
You have to understand that I'm not looking to believe in God and have no desire to. I much prefer to allow what I believe to follow passively from what I think true. That is far from Scientism. Much of first person knowledge resists the third person requirement of repeatability and falsifiability, but that doesn't mean I reject all first person knowledge. Far from it. I simply don't count an apprehension of God among the artifacts of my first person knowledge. Who are you to rule on the validity of my first person knowledge?
I would share your difficulty with the bible. I would also share your instinct about God. That changed for me due to circumstance and opportunity. I was 25/6 then.
I wouldn't label you with scientism. I guess my own road to faith was passive. I had my own personally held ideas about the spiritual. There came a point at which the dissonance between my understanding and my belief position became untenable. I had to actively change that stance.
I'm not ruling on the validity of your knowledge at all. I'm saying that my knowledge is just as valid as yours. We're constantly berated on here that our knowledge is invalid. I wouldn't accuse you of that, but you must appreciate, and I think you do by this role reversal, that we must complain at the injustice of that accusation made towards us. We justify it and offer reason for scrutiny. Sadly the majority still deny us the right to state our position without deriding it.
